Rachel Abrams

And what kind of clues could you find to answer your question about what is funding and fueling all of this destruction?

It seems unusual that a war could be boiled down to something as simple as gold.

It does remind me of the blood diamonds that fuel the conflict in Sierra Leone, but I'm curious if you see it this way.

Declan, can you talk a little bit about the gold economy, how much it's worth, if we have any idea, how the gold actually moves, and whose hands actually touch it along the way?

How has this General Hemedie managed to both fight a war and mine for gold at the same time?

Like, how does that operation work exactly?

Given what we know about how desperate the situation has been in Sudan, how poor people are, obviously there's been a famine for many years, and how brutal the RSF has been, would you call it forced labor?

Is it slave labor?

That's very closely tied to the Kremlin, right?

So you've just laid out very comprehensively one side of the conflict.

Tell us about how gold fuels the other side of the conflict.

So Russia, in some ways, is supporting and potentially benefiting from both sides of this conflict.

Declan, you have both sides of this conflict using gold to fund their war efforts.

Obviously, any kind of commodity needs a buyer.

Who is purchasing all of this gold?

We'll be right back.

Declan, you mentioned that all of this gold is going to a single destination.

Where is it going and how did you report that out?

So, OK, that's what it took to trace just one shipment.

How much money overall are we talking about that's flowing from Sudan to the UAE?