Rachel Aviv

She was a participant in like a pretty psychologically abusive relationship and had many of the dynamics of sort of women who try to leave men and don't feel like they can exist without that man. There was a sort of confused idea about...

She was a participant in like a pretty psychologically abusive relationship and had many of the dynamics of sort of women who try to leave men and don't feel like they can exist without that man. There was a sort of confused idea about...

She was a participant in like a pretty psychologically abusive relationship and had many of the dynamics of sort of women who try to leave men and don't feel like they can exist without that man. There was a sort of confused idea about...

Like this sort of idea that she often would tell Andrea that it was misogynistic to expect a mother to sacrifice her own happiness because her husband has done a bad thing. And Andrea really internalized that and would tell her mother that. And like, yes, of course, like no one would ever ask a father to do this, only a mother. Therefore, I cannot ask my mother to do this.

Like this sort of idea that she often would tell Andrea that it was misogynistic to expect a mother to sacrifice her own happiness because her husband has done a bad thing. And Andrea really internalized that and would tell her mother that. And like, yes, of course, like no one would ever ask a father to do this, only a mother. Therefore, I cannot ask my mother to do this.

Like this sort of idea that she often would tell Andrea that it was misogynistic to expect a mother to sacrifice her own happiness because her husband has done a bad thing. And Andrea really internalized that and would tell her mother that. And like, yes, of course, like no one would ever ask a father to do this, only a mother. Therefore, I cannot ask my mother to do this.

And then I think there was like this sense for Alice that the writing was the most important thing and that she was sort of.

And then I think there was like this sense for Alice that the writing was the most important thing and that she was sort of.

And then I think there was like this sense for Alice that the writing was the most important thing and that she was sort of.

on a kind of existential level, like living in this, in a way that's hard to describe, where she was sort of watching and not totally present and maybe not able to really feel her daughter's experience, whether it was dissociation or some sort of artistic distance that had become her mode of living.

on a kind of existential level, like living in this, in a way that's hard to describe, where she was sort of watching and not totally present and maybe not able to really feel her daughter's experience, whether it was dissociation or some sort of artistic distance that had become her mode of living.

on a kind of existential level, like living in this, in a way that's hard to describe, where she was sort of watching and not totally present and maybe not able to really feel her daughter's experience, whether it was dissociation or some sort of artistic distance that had become her mode of living.

That line really resonates because there's this story she wrote years before where a girl is sort of being abused sexually, like sort of being groped on a train. Which one is this? This is Wild Swans. And she says, you know, she just wanted to see what will happen. It's almost the same language, the sense of like... I'm just going to kind of keep going here because I'm so curious.

That line really resonates because there's this story she wrote years before where a girl is sort of being abused sexually, like sort of being groped on a train. Which one is this? This is Wild Swans. And she says, you know, she just wanted to see what will happen. It's almost the same language, the sense of like... I'm just going to kind of keep going here because I'm so curious.

That line really resonates because there's this story she wrote years before where a girl is sort of being abused sexually, like sort of being groped on a train. Which one is this? This is Wild Swans. And she says, you know, she just wanted to see what will happen. It's almost the same language, the sense of like... I'm just going to kind of keep going here because I'm so curious.

And she describes herself as victim and accomplice, and there's this sense of feeling like an accomplice because of that curiosity, of that wanting it to happen, or wanting to not interfere with the action that will come to her.

And she describes herself as victim and accomplice, and there's this sense of feeling like an accomplice because of that curiosity, of that wanting it to happen, or wanting to not interfere with the action that will come to her.

And she describes herself as victim and accomplice, and there's this sense of feeling like an accomplice because of that curiosity, of that wanting it to happen, or wanting to not interfere with the action that will come to her.

Probably. I mean, I feel like it was more helpless than that because, of course, she had deep wounds from her own life. Right.

Probably. I mean, I feel like it was more helpless than that because, of course, she had deep wounds from her own life. Right.