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I sort of fell into bats by chance, and really the reason I fell into them was because of Austin, because of that enormous urban colony of bats.

I sort of fell into bats by chance, and really the reason I fell into them was because of Austin, because of that enormous urban colony of bats.

I sort of fell into bats by chance, and really the reason I fell into them was because of Austin, because of that enormous urban colony of bats.

I was mesmerized. How on earth are they not bumping into each other? How can they recognize their own echolocation call? How are they also communicating socially with one another?

I was mesmerized. How on earth are they not bumping into each other? How can they recognize their own echolocation call? How are they also communicating socially with one another?

I was mesmerized. How on earth are they not bumping into each other? How can they recognize their own echolocation call? How are they also communicating socially with one another?

And then these frog-eating bats, for example, they are actually listening in on the mating calls of frogs that are much, much lower in frequency. So they've had to evolve basically like another set of hearing sensitivities.

And then these frog-eating bats, for example, they are actually listening in on the mating calls of frogs that are much, much lower in frequency. So they've had to evolve basically like another set of hearing sensitivities.

And then these frog-eating bats, for example, they are actually listening in on the mating calls of frogs that are much, much lower in frequency. So they've had to evolve basically like another set of hearing sensitivities.