Rachel Cruz

So the people on the more marathon side, to Ken's point,

it's okay to take a step back and just have a breather and still continue on your plan.

But if you kind of put some of those rest periods in for you, for some people, they're like, oh gosh, I need a nice dinner out.

And that's like a relief.

Whatever that looks like for you to have that.

And then the relational side is, yes, ideally he would...

see that and be on board, but I want you to feel validated in your decisions.

And so I don't want this to be a point of tension for you guys because you feel like you are working your butt off and no one sees you in it, right?

When you have a relationship and you have a man in your life that could look at you and be cheering you on.

So that's more of my problem.

I'd wish value-wise he lined up with you, but more of how he treats you in the process, I hope is great.

That's my prayer for you.

Thank you.

Good job.

Well done.

Well done.

Yes, I would say even more for stay-at-home spouses.

We say half a million, but depending on the age of your kids.

Yeah, that's the baseline.

That's right, absolutely.