Rachel Maddow

And we are seeing what life is like there. And it's just, you know, I am your friend who sends you weird country music songs. This is like a Robert Earl Keene moment for us, like the road goes on forever and the party never ends. It turns out. Like in the middle of a fascist takeover, what happens is there's a fascist takeover and you have to keep still doing the work.

And we are seeing what life is like there. And it's just, you know, I am your friend who sends you weird country music songs. This is like a Robert Earl Keene moment for us, like the road goes on forever and the party never ends. It turns out. Like in the middle of a fascist takeover, what happens is there's a fascist takeover and you have to keep still doing the work.

Then you are a person who's fighting an existing fascist authoritarian government and not just warning about it and trying to avert it from happening. Like you just you have to keep putting one foot in front of the other. There isn't this isn't a play. This isn't a movie. This is our lives. And as long as we're here, we have stuff to do.

Then you are a person who's fighting an existing fascist authoritarian government and not just warning about it and trying to avert it from happening. Like you just you have to keep putting one foot in front of the other. There isn't this isn't a play. This isn't a movie. This is our lives. And as long as we're here, we have stuff to do.

Oh, yeah. I think one of the reasons that I often use the term strongman to describe him is I think he'd probably call himself a strongman, too. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. I think one of the reasons that I often use the term strongman to describe him is I think he'd probably call himself a strongman, too. Yeah.

But then.

But then.

Yes. Strongman dictatorship. Like, okay. I don't know.

Yes. Strongman dictatorship. Like, okay. I don't know.

Can we put that on a hat? I like all the root words. Authoritarian. Yes. I am a bestselling author. Yes, I am. Strongman. I am so strong. Yes, I won't go there with dictator, but I just... Oh, my God.

Can we put that on a hat? I like all the root words. Authoritarian. Yes. I am a bestselling author. Yes, I am. Strongman. I am so strong. Yes, I won't go there with dictator, but I just... Oh, my God.

Yeah. Although I do feel like there's still – like real value in making sure that we're covering them in such a way that is not the stories that they want us to tell and not the topics they want us to be covering. So the whole provocation, like yanking our chain stuff, like the Trump 2028 stuff and all those things are designed to get us to react, right?

Yeah. Although I do feel like there's still – like real value in making sure that we're covering them in such a way that is not the stories that they want us to tell and not the topics they want us to be covering. So the whole provocation, like yanking our chain stuff, like the Trump 2028 stuff and all those things are designed to get us to react, right?

Tap your moral compass, see if it's working. We must express outrage because he's done an outrageous thing, blah, blah, blah. I get it. Like, I understand how that all works. But there is, I feel like, real value in making sure that we are telling the stories that are not the stories of their choosing.

Tap your moral compass, see if it's working. We must express outrage because he's done an outrageous thing, blah, blah, blah. I get it. Like, I understand how that all works. But there is, I feel like, real value in making sure that we are telling the stories that are not the stories of their choosing.

And so, like, one of the things that I've been thinking about with the relations with foreign countries stuff is not just the grifting stuff that they're doing in public, but, like, what's leading to these weird international new connections that we have? Like, one of the stories that I've been sort of starting to pursue is what's going on in Libya.

And so, like, one of the things that I've been thinking about with the relations with foreign countries stuff is not just the grifting stuff that they're doing in public, but, like, what's leading to these weird international new connections that we have? Like, one of the stories that I've been sort of starting to pursue is what's going on in Libya.

So, like, Libya turns up as a place where we're going to send immigrants who have no connection to Libya. Why are we going to send them there? I don't know. People from the Philippines. Yeah. Why are people from the Philippines going to Libya? And then, you know, Libya doesn't have a unified government. They've got the Benghazi government. Remember Benghazi?

So, like, Libya turns up as a place where we're going to send immigrants who have no connection to Libya. Why are we going to send them there? I don't know. People from the Philippines. Yeah. Why are people from the Philippines going to Libya? And then, you know, Libya doesn't have a unified government. They've got the Benghazi government. Remember Benghazi?