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In other words, by direct order of the United States Supreme Court, using clearer language this time, the Trump administration has been told they cannot send people out of the country on flights like this until the Supreme Court can weigh in further. Seven Supreme Court justices signed on to that decision. Thomas and Alito dissented.
the ACLU lawyer whose swift action led to that bus turning around, we believe, led to that dramatic decision of the Supreme Court. He joins us here next to talk about what's coming next. Stay with us. ...
the ACLU lawyer whose swift action led to that bus turning around, we believe, led to that dramatic decision of the Supreme Court. He joins us here next to talk about what's coming next. Stay with us. ...
I was made to sign a detention and deportation order to a country we don't even know. That's a piece of video NBC News obtained from the family of one man. The Trump administration almost flew out of the country this weekend, we think, before an emergency order from the United States Supreme Court appears to have stopped them.
I was made to sign a detention and deportation order to a country we don't even know. That's a piece of video NBC News obtained from the family of one man. The Trump administration almost flew out of the country this weekend, we think, before an emergency order from the United States Supreme Court appears to have stopped them.
The Supreme Court was able to intervene in this case because of swift action from the ACLU and their lead attorney on this matter, Lee Gelernt. Lee and his team rushed to three separate federal courts within five hours on Friday night to try to stop the Trump administration from sending yet another group of men out of the country and presumably to that mega prison in El Salvador.
The Supreme Court was able to intervene in this case because of swift action from the ACLU and their lead attorney on this matter, Lee Gelernt. Lee and his team rushed to three separate federal courts within five hours on Friday night to try to stop the Trump administration from sending yet another group of men out of the country and presumably to that mega prison in El Salvador.
Joining us now is Lee Gelernt, deputy director of the ACLU Immigrants Rights Project. Mr. Gelernt, thank you for joining us again. I appreciate you being here. So, Lee, is this what it appears? Were they about to send more men to El Salvador on Friday, but that was stopped because of you and your team rushing to those three separate courts on Friday afternoon and evening?
Joining us now is Lee Gelernt, deputy director of the ACLU Immigrants Rights Project. Mr. Gelernt, thank you for joining us again. I appreciate you being here. So, Lee, is this what it appears? Were they about to send more men to El Salvador on Friday, but that was stopped because of you and your team rushing to those three separate courts on Friday afternoon and evening?
And to be clear, I mean, for anybody watching who's not a lawyer and who doesn't necessarily understand what due process means in this case in detail, the basic concept of it is very simple, right? The basic concept, as I understand it, is that the Trump administration is saying, we claim the right to to send these men to an out-of-country prison from which they may never, ever leave.
And to be clear, I mean, for anybody watching who's not a lawyer and who doesn't necessarily understand what due process means in this case in detail, the basic concept of it is very simple, right? The basic concept, as I understand it, is that the Trump administration is saying, we claim the right to to send these men to an out-of-country prison from which they may never, ever leave.
And we do that on the basis of our assessment that these guys are terrible gang members, members of a particularly terrible gang, and that's why we think we can do this. The notice that the Supreme Court has said these men must get is notice to give them enough time to say, hey, I'm not a gang member like that.
And we do that on the basis of our assessment that these guys are terrible gang members, members of a particularly terrible gang, and that's why we think we can do this. The notice that the Supreme Court has said these men must get is notice to give them enough time to say, hey, I'm not a gang member like that.
I'm not one of these people who's part of this class that you claim the right to treat this way. how they're being noticed, how they're being given advanced word that this stuff is going to happen really matters because it's the only chance they may ever have to protect themselves from what will otherwise be lawless imprisonment, potentially for life.
I'm not one of these people who's part of this class that you claim the right to treat this way. how they're being noticed, how they're being given advanced word that this stuff is going to happen really matters because it's the only chance they may ever have to protect themselves from what will otherwise be lawless imprisonment, potentially for life.
Lee, I spent the weekend and today looking through protest footage of people protesting in all 50 states in the country.
Lee, I spent the weekend and today looking through protest footage of people protesting in all 50 states in the country.
There was not a single protest that I looked at, even the little tiny ones, even in the most remote places in this country, where people were not talking about this case and not talking about due process and the need to not disappear people and the unjustness of our administration sending people to some prison in El Salvador.
There was not a single protest that I looked at, even the little tiny ones, even in the most remote places in this country, where people were not talking about this case and not talking about due process and the need to not disappear people and the unjustness of our administration sending people to some prison in El Salvador.
I know that you're in the trenches of this working every day, but the country is paying a lot of attention to what you're doing. It really matters to people.