Rachel Martin

And that was a great prelude to going off to college and putting everything in perspective.

Indeed.

Yeah.

Your parents were supportive of this?

Or maybe it was their idea that in order to pay this off, you need to get a job and this will suit.

It was my second infraction.

By that point, my parents were divorced, recently divorced.

And so I was just being cared for by my mother at that point.

Uh-huh.

And she said, there's no way I'm paying your legal bills.

Yeah, good for her.

I worked those problems out in college, and I'm a much more responsible individual now at the age of 61.

So you went, if I'm not mistaken, to Brown, right?

Yes, yeah.

So you said that gave you perspective, but can you talk a little bit more about what that experience, what that job did for you when you started walking around in these fancy elite circles?

Yeah.

I was a classics major, and it was a pretty rigorous program.

And I had to get very, very serious once I got there because the work was rigorous.

So

The lesson I learned was don't waste these opportunities that you have.