Rachel Martin

Wildcard's executive producer is Yolanda Sangweni, and our theme music is by Romteen Arablui.

You can reach out to us at wildcard at npr.org.

We will shuffle the deck and be back with more next week.

Talk to you then.

I wonder how a grocery store works.

I'm Jesse Thorne.

Everyone's kind of wondered something like that, right?

Including my guest, Susan Orlean.

And she didn't just wonder.

She spent six weeks inside a real working grocery store.

To me, that's really fun.

We'll talk about that and her 45 years of brilliant, hilarious nonfiction.

That's Bullseye.

Find us in the NPR app at MaximumFun.org or wherever you get your podcasts.

I'm Rachel Martin and this is Wildcard, the show where cards control the conversation.

Each week, my guest answers questions about their life, questions pulled from a deck of cards.

They're allowed to skip one and to flip one question back on me.

My guest today is Oprah Winfrey.

These days, everyone is all about intimacy and authenticity.

But this is what Oprah was all about way back starting in the 1980s.