Rachel Nichols

Because people scoreboard watch.

Life becomes about wins and losses.

Steve Burns, Dustin Ross.

Because you find it important to be a good person while you're here on Earth?

Or are you a good person because you're afraid?

Because that's two different intentions, bro.

Absolutely.

And that's two different levels of trust.

I want you to just really be a good person.

Join me, Keir Gaines, as we have real conversations about healing, growth, fatherhood, pressure and purpose on my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way.

Open your free iHeartRadio app, search Learn the Hard Way and listen now.

A win is a win.

A win is a win.

I don't care what y'all say.

Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor IV.

You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media.

Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.

This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.

So let's get to it.

Listen to The Clifford Show on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.