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Rachel Tobac

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Darknet Diaries
144: Rachel

Something to understand is as an attacker, this is not easy to do. I've never been a PM. So to apply for a PM role takes a lot of background research. I mean, I led a UX research team at a tech company. So I do have a sense of what a PM, a product manager does, but I am in no way prepared for a PM interview. So I have to study for three full weeks for this role. I'm watching YouTube videos.

Darknet Diaries
144: Rachel

Something to understand is as an attacker, this is not easy to do. I've never been a PM. So to apply for a PM role takes a lot of background research. I mean, I led a UX research team at a tech company. So I do have a sense of what a PM, a product manager does, but I am in no way prepared for a PM interview. So I have to study for three full weeks for this role. I'm watching YouTube videos.

Darknet Diaries
144: Rachel

I'm doing interview prep quizzes online. I'm taking free online courses like, so you want to be a PM, like the whole nine yards. So I'm building a full persona, a resume, a Twitter, LinkedIn, Facebook.

Darknet Diaries
144: Rachel

I'm doing interview prep quizzes online. I'm taking free online courses like, so you want to be a PM, like the whole nine yards. So I'm building a full persona, a resume, a Twitter, LinkedIn, Facebook.

Darknet Diaries
144: Rachel

All of these stock accounts have photos, thousands of friends, reviews of my work from networking groups on LinkedIn, people I've never met that like you give them a review and they give you a review. All of this stuff is so gameable.

Darknet Diaries
144: Rachel

All of these stock accounts have photos, thousands of friends, reviews of my work from networking groups on LinkedIn, people I've never met that like you give them a review and they give you a review. All of this stuff is so gameable.

Darknet Diaries
144: Rachel

Unfortunately, yes. We do change the names of many sock accounts, but then you have to populate a lot of new information. It ultimately takes me about three weeks to build a believable social media account and enough examples of previous PM work to get anywhere near convincible during the interview process.

Darknet Diaries
144: Rachel

Unfortunately, yes. We do change the names of many sock accounts, but then you have to populate a lot of new information. It ultimately takes me about three weeks to build a believable social media account and enough examples of previous PM work to get anywhere near convincible during the interview process.

Darknet Diaries
144: Rachel

No, I just had to apply.

Darknet Diaries
144: Rachel

No, I just had to apply.

Darknet Diaries
144: Rachel

Well, during this period of time, the tech hiring process wasn't as bad as it is in this current year. So I apply for the role. I get a phone screen. I am sweating bullets because if I don't get through this phone screen, I will not move on to a full interview process. I'm going to have to do a bunch of work to change my sock accounts on social media to match a new persona.

Darknet Diaries
144: Rachel

Well, during this period of time, the tech hiring process wasn't as bad as it is in this current year. So I apply for the role. I get a phone screen. I am sweating bullets because if I don't get through this phone screen, I will not move on to a full interview process. I'm going to have to do a bunch of work to change my sock accounts on social media to match a new persona.

Darknet Diaries
144: Rachel

It's going to be a lot more work for me. Luckily, it took like 45 minutes. I passed. I get moved on to the next round. The next round has six different interviewers.

Darknet Diaries
144: Rachel

It's going to be a lot more work for me. Luckily, it took like 45 minutes. I passed. I get moved on to the next round. The next round has six different interviewers.

Darknet Diaries
144: Rachel

No, virtual, thank goodness.

Darknet Diaries
144: Rachel

No, virtual, thank goodness.

Darknet Diaries
144: Rachel

No, not during the phone screen.

Darknet Diaries
144: Rachel

No, not during the phone screen.

Darknet Diaries
144: Rachel

Yeah, I was terrified that they're going to be like, this person's a weirdo, like, let's not move them forward. So I waited until the actual official interviewers arrived. And it's going to be a packed day of interviews. I have six interviews back to back all day. These interviews are conducted over Zoom. I get all dressed up in my interview clothes that I haven't worn in years.

Darknet Diaries
144: Rachel

Yeah, I was terrified that they're going to be like, this person's a weirdo, like, let's not move them forward. So I waited until the actual official interviewers arrived. And it's going to be a packed day of interviews. I have six interviews back to back all day. These interviews are conducted over Zoom. I get all dressed up in my interview clothes that I haven't worn in years.