Rachel

You need to head off.

But he was backed, then comes back next year and wins the All-Ireland.

Same the year before, Brian Lohan.

It would have been his...

his year was his three year team was up and then the next year they give him another chance and he comes back and wins an All-Ireland it's probably like I was even looking it up earlier to see specifically how inter-county managers are ratified which is the word that just like stuck in my head it seems to be like a county board maybe like elect a committee they'll conduct some interviews and you know they'll put forward one or two people I think a lot of the time they're going to be accepted you know they're going to be putting it to people who want the job so

It's just completely random and interesting that when they were talking about Henry Sheflin, you know, Kilkenny great, when he went to Galway in 2021, which was a bit of a whew at the time, Eddie O'Sullivan was involved, like a former Irish coach was involved in the recruitment process.

And one of the under 20 selectors at the time from Galway was just like, he should have had nothing to do with this.

You know, he has no, he's not a hurling guy.

You know, we need to kind of reassess the way that we're,

Looking at inter-county managers.

I mean, you take a look at Cork this year.

Pat Ryan was offered another three years by the county board.

But I don't know if this is allegedly or not allegedly on the stipulation that he make changes to his backroom team.

from the county board so that's kind of where you're seeing similar to it's the tension between the manager the coaches the higher ups the county boards the players the fans yeah and Pat Ryan wanted to keep his backroom team that didn't seem like it was going to be an option so he stepped away

And he didn't even survive for long.

I mean, I obviously don't know enough about it, but...

Is there a case to be made?

Are there any clubs that really stick with the manager through thick and thin and they maybe implement a complete new system and they give them patience and then they succeed?

Okay.

Rachel?