Rachelle Hampton

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Wow. And then the last one, I like this one. The last resolution is to give fewer fucks in general.

Wow. And then the last one, I like this one. The last resolution is to give fewer fucks in general.

Girl, whoever.

Girl, whoever.

Amen. Yeah, truly. I mean, I would say my addendum to this would be to place my fucks in the correct spaces. There are a lot of things that I think we should all just care less about. What celebrities are doing. It's not activism to care about what celebrities are doing. They're never going to represent us. I think giving fewer fucks about the just TikTok coverage of the Trump administration.

Amen. Yeah, truly. I mean, I would say my addendum to this would be to place my fucks in the correct spaces. There are a lot of things that I think we should all just care less about. What celebrities are doing. It's not activism to care about what celebrities are doing. They're never going to represent us. I think giving fewer fucks about the just TikTok coverage of the Trump administration.

If there's anything I learned from the first Trump administration is that a lot of people will spend a lot of time spinning theories that don't happen. And the things that actually happen will be entirely surprising and devastating in ways that we couldn't have guessed.

If there's anything I learned from the first Trump administration is that a lot of people will spend a lot of time spinning theories that don't happen. And the things that actually happen will be entirely surprising and devastating in ways that we couldn't have guessed.

And I don't really want to listen to pundits or people on Twitter who are just spiraling and scared and trying to control their fear by trying to guess what's coming next. I get it. I also try to control my fear by predicting the future. But unfortunately, I don't have that ability and neither does Ezra Klein. So I don't want to pay attention to those people.

And I don't really want to listen to pundits or people on Twitter who are just spiraling and scared and trying to control their fear by trying to guess what's coming next. I get it. I also try to control my fear by predicting the future. But unfortunately, I don't have that ability and neither does Ezra Klein. So I don't want to pay attention to those people.

I want to respond to the moment that we're in.

I want to respond to the moment that we're in.

Yeah. Ciara, thank you for coming on the show. Oh my gosh, thanks for having me. I mean, technically you're always here.

Yeah. Ciara, thank you for coming on the show. Oh my gosh, thanks for having me. I mean, technically you're always here.

If you don't, I'll come to all of your houses. And fight you. No! Personally. No, no. I'll be getting in street fights for Ciara's honor. This is my bestie. This is the love of my life. I'm so glad that this happened. I know you said it's a rare occurrence, but we might be making it less rare as time goes on. So this hopefully is not the last time y'all get to hear from Ciara on mic.

If you don't, I'll come to all of your houses. And fight you. No! Personally. No, no. I'll be getting in street fights for Ciara's honor. This is my bestie. This is the love of my life. I'm so glad that this happened. I know you said it's a rare occurrence, but we might be making it less rare as time goes on. So this hopefully is not the last time y'all get to hear from Ciara on mic.

This podcast was produced by Sierra Spragley-Rix and J. Tolviera. The co-creators and dowager queens of Normal Gossip are Alex Dujon-Laughlin and Kelsey McKinney. Justin Ellis is Defectors Projects Editor. Jasper Wang and Sean Kuhn are Defectors Business Guys. Alex Dujon-Loughlin is Defector's supervising producer. Tom Le is our editor-in-chief.

This podcast was produced by Sierra Spragley-Rix and J. Tolviera. The co-creators and dowager queens of Normal Gossip are Alex Dujon-Laughlin and Kelsey McKinney. Justin Ellis is Defectors Projects Editor. Jasper Wang and Sean Kuhn are Defectors Business Guys. Alex Dujon-Loughlin is Defector's supervising producer. Tom Le is our editor-in-chief.

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