Rachelle Hampton

I am so thrilled to be joined by none other than Saatchi Cole. Saatchi is a senior writer at Slate and the author of two books. Her most recent book, Sucker Punch, just came out in March and it is a beautiful collection of essays. Sachi also produced the documentary Girls Gone Wild, The Untold Story, and she is a co-host of the Scamfluencers podcast. Sachi, welcome.

My first question is, do you consider yourself a gossip?

My first question is, do you consider yourself a gossip?

It is.

It is.

It's very revealing. This is the same way I feel about reality television, where people say because it's produced that it doesn't say anything real. And I'm like, no, the invisible hand of the production and what they think we want to see is actually very, very instructive.

It's very revealing. This is the same way I feel about reality television, where people say because it's produced that it doesn't say anything real. And I'm like, no, the invisible hand of the production and what they think we want to see is actually very, very instructive.

I mean, I have to ask now that we're here, Sachi, what is your relationship to gossip?

I mean, I have to ask now that we're here, Sachi, what is your relationship to gossip?

What the fuck?

What the fuck?

You should definitely get credit for that, to be clear. Thank you. Unfortunately, we go through a rigorous legal process.

You should definitely get credit for that, to be clear. Thank you. Unfortunately, we go through a rigorous legal process.

You wake up in the morning. You're like, I look particularly stacked today.

You wake up in the morning. You're like, I look particularly stacked today.

Yeah, you have the rare honor of giving us a piece of gossip that we could not air, but a little birdie told me that you have some airable gossip for me.

Yeah, you have the rare honor of giving us a piece of gossip that we could not air, but a little birdie told me that you have some airable gossip for me.

Can I tell you my experience of this moment? Yeah. Yeah. So I get on the train. It's very early for me. I know this is a morning workout based on how out of it I was. I look up and I'm pretty sure I'd already seen your cover on Instagram. And so I saw the book first and I was just like, oh my God, someone has a galley of Sachi's book already. The street team is really out here. That's incredible.

Can I tell you my experience of this moment? Yeah. Yeah. So I get on the train. It's very early for me. I know this is a morning workout based on how out of it I was. I look up and I'm pretty sure I'd already seen your cover on Instagram. And so I saw the book first and I was just like, oh my God, someone has a galley of Sachi's book already. The street team is really out here. That's incredible.

And then I look up further and I'm like, oh, my God, it's Sachi. I haven't seen her in months. And then I thought this is going to be hilarious.