Rahm Emanuel

Because the ticket to the middle class runs through the classroom.

Without it?

like the land-grant colleges, like the universal high school education, like the GI Bill, like the Science and Tech Sputnik Challenge.

But if you go back to Clinton, it was cut down.

Without it, there's no middle class in America.

You know, those were the days it was coming out of a series of things.

That's the door you gotta walk through to open up all the other doors.

But he still got AmeriCorps done.

And to me, now, one last comment, and then this is also politics, which you and I are, at least the two of us are good at.

Yeah.

Not as big as he wanted.

I found it fascinating in the Texas special.

The Republicans said, oh, this is a warning, which is true.

Democrats said, look at his background.

What he said was, which nobody, you listen, I stayed away from all the cultural issues and I focused on education and vocational ed.

You ever hear that before from anybody else?

That's my point.

I've been talking about education because as you said,

It may not be one.

It doesn't come, quote, unquote, under affordability, but it's where people live their lives.