Rahm Emanuel

There was support if kids were showing challenges.

They got extra tutoring time.

Each child got, I think, I'm doing this by memory, an hour and 15 minutes minimum every day on reading.

They went from 49th in Mississippi on reading scores across the country to 9th.

And if you account for demographics, they're beating Massachusetts now.

So with a result like that, what's controversial about this project?

Well, there's a professor, call it 25 years ago out of Columbia University, who taught people, got a lot of school districts to go into what the art of reading, not the science.

You like the letter of A, you can use it.

If you don't like the letter A, don't use the letter of A. And rune degeneration.

And when I find that, professor, you don't have to do any forensics for the physical body harm.

I did it.

It's unbelievable what they did in runing.

So what got controversial, and this is...

One is some people don't like the accountability part, the testing.

As one principal in Hattiesburg told me, you need those tests to help improve what you're going to do, not only for that student, but for the next class, the second grades coming into third grade.

You can't be scared of accountability and standards.

I want to come back to that in a second.

On the other side, which is Mississippi did not abandon their public schools with some other fancy thing called vouchers.

They invested in their public schools.

It was all started, by the way, by