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Rain Paharia

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Appearances Over Time

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Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

you know, things where, like, okay, you got to spend, like, a whole day, like, investigating what the other projects do and how it fits and, like, you know, really getting to the root of the problem, right?

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

And I'm, like, pretty lazy generally, and I'm like, I don't want to do that.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

And so, you know, I'm like, I would either do a half-assed thing.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

And honestly, in the past, I would just do what, you know, what the suggested fix was, right?

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

It turns out that the suggested fix is actually, like, woefully incomplete, which is, you know, which is where, like, I feel like, you know, I kind of gave this to Opus 4.5.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

And so, you know, one of the things it said is that like lesson Vim and a few other projects follow this pattern.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

Right.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

So I actually gave it the less source code.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

I gave it the Vim source code and I gave it the source code to like a bunch of other things.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

And I was like, okay, like dig into this, like what do these projects do?

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

And so this kind of comes back to the, you know, asking questions of code bases you're unfamiliar with.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

And so, you know, I did that, right.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

I had no idea about the less code base.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

I had no idea about the Vim code base or anything.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

And so it spent like 10 minutes or so.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

And it actually like, you know, wrote up a nice summary of like, here is what all the projects do and so on.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

Right.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

And then I, you know, I kind of, you know, I was like, okay, you know, this makes sense.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

And then, you know, I tried that.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

And, and so, you know, it was like an interesting, like, it took me like maybe two or three hours to do.