Rainn Wilson

I love that question.

I love that question.

I really, really love that question.

I will say that so many lights went off in my brain when you asked me that.

Because I think it's really important, you know, if you're seeking greatness, it's super important to say, like you said, to try and be authentic.

I'm not always authentic.

I was a bullshit artist.

Really?

For most of my life.

I was an addict.

I was a people pleaser.

I just wanted to entertain.

I was like the class clown.

I just wanted people to like me.

And I was in constant comparison with other people.

So that's something that I've struggled with, and it really is trying to bring as much authenticity and integrity to my interactions as possible and to be vulnerable.

Because if you want greatness, and I've just been reading and listening to your book and really enjoying it, and I'm gonna switch the complimentary tables on you and just say, what I love about your book

is there's no bull and here are like takeaways like you you you want to do this here's what to do nothing vague in the book at all like here's hooks you can hang your hat on and i just picture like some young dude trying to make a difference and your book is like a bible you know and i and i really i really mean that i've read a lot of like books that are i won't say it's not self-help but like

motivational like motivational kind of leadership entrepreneurship or whatever yours is bigger than that and i really appreciate that but i do think that when we talked right before the interview uh i was saying like sometimes messages don't get through unless you're really vulnerable and unless you're just as real as possible because there's a lot of those folks out there aspiring to some kind of greatness and some kind of motivation and leadership that that are struggling

Yeah.