Rainn Wilson

We have text chains and talk with each other.

Supporting each other, celebrating each other's wins.

That's amazing.

Absolutely, yeah.

Well, it's so funny that you mentioned that because that's how I start the book is comparing the spiritual journey to two of my favorite television shows from the 1970s, which I experienced as a kid.

And I've done a lot of reflecting back on.

which is Kung Fu, like I talked about, which is Kwai Chang Kane going through the rough and tumble West as a Shaolin monk.

He's half Chinese and he experiences a lot of racism

And a lot of violence and aggression.

And he takes his Eastern wisdom and teaches people's lessons.

And he also kicks ass when he needs to.

You know, with Kung Fu, there's going to be a couple of fights per episode, which everyone waited, we all waited for with bated breath.

And that I compare to like our personal spiritual journey.

So you Lewis, you've talked to 1400 people, you've gained this wisdom, this insight, but then you go out in the world and you have your girlfriend and your family and you're navigating the world and trying to use your wisdom, better yourself, continue, you're doing your therapy work, you're trying to make yourself a better person, increase your positive qualities, your divine qualities, your spiritual qualities, some could say,

compassion and kindness and love, right?

So that's that path.

My other favorite TV show from the 70s was Star Trek.

So Star Trek, I see as also a spiritual journey, not on an individual level, but on a collective level.

Because people forget that in Star Trek, the mythology is there's been a huge World War III.

And out of the ashes of that terrible conflagration,