Rainn Wilson

We're tribal beings, which can have its bad aspects of tribalism and its good aspects of tribalism.

but it is in community and support and love and mutual service and commonality, acceptance.

That's where people find a real joy.

And it certainly doesn't seem like contemporary American or Western culture is leading us towards ever greater connection and community.

So we have to do what we can to find it.

And that's one of the things in jettisoning religion, we've also jettisoned

you know, potlucks and gatherings and dances and church basements and people singing together.

I mean, how power, humanity has been singing around fires and singing in community for hundreds of thousands of years in creating together.

So that's where so much of the work needs to be done.

Yeah.

And then you're alone looking at your phone.

Yes, please bring it.

Okay.

Great.

I think Dwight would be beyond ma-ha.

What's beyond ma-ha-ha-ha-ha?

Yeah, he would...

I think he'd be like, create your own vaccines.

He probably creates his own vaccines involving like goat urine and nettles.

Yeah, there's a little bit of that there.