Rainn Wilson

The word anxiety was not in the lexicon other than, you know, it was something you felt if, you know, you were afraid you were going to be late for a movie. You know, there wasn't... It wasn't an idea kind of entrenched that, you know, there's an epidemic of loneliness and anxiety and depression and addiction. So I started facing those demons without any help, without any money.

There was no therapy available. You know, therapy was outrageously expensive. No one I knew was in therapy or had ever been in therapy. And so what do you do?

There was no therapy available. You know, therapy was outrageously expensive. No one I knew was in therapy or had ever been in therapy. And so what do you do?

There was no therapy available. You know, therapy was outrageously expensive. No one I knew was in therapy or had ever been in therapy. And so what do you do?

when you're desperately unhappy, unmoored, off track, having anxiety attacks, feeling depressed sometimes for weeks on end, questioning everything, like why am I alive, why am I here, dealing with addiction issues, drugs, alcohol, sex, porn, whatever, you name it, whatever's there. And, You know, what do you do?

when you're desperately unhappy, unmoored, off track, having anxiety attacks, feeling depressed sometimes for weeks on end, questioning everything, like why am I alive, why am I here, dealing with addiction issues, drugs, alcohol, sex, porn, whatever, you name it, whatever's there. And, You know, what do you do?

when you're desperately unhappy, unmoored, off track, having anxiety attacks, feeling depressed sometimes for weeks on end, questioning everything, like why am I alive, why am I here, dealing with addiction issues, drugs, alcohol, sex, porn, whatever, you name it, whatever's there. And, You know, what do you do?

So the only thing that I knew to do was to start exploring spirituality and a spiritual path. And Julia Cameron, in the artist's way, not in the artist's way, but in an interview, said, I come to spirituality not out of virtue, but out of necessity. And that's what forced me to turn toward a spiritual path was seeking a balm for the amount of anguish that I was in as a young man.

So the only thing that I knew to do was to start exploring spirituality and a spiritual path. And Julia Cameron, in the artist's way, not in the artist's way, but in an interview, said, I come to spirituality not out of virtue, but out of necessity. And that's what forced me to turn toward a spiritual path was seeking a balm for the amount of anguish that I was in as a young man.

So the only thing that I knew to do was to start exploring spirituality and a spiritual path. And Julia Cameron, in the artist's way, not in the artist's way, but in an interview, said, I come to spirituality not out of virtue, but out of necessity. And that's what forced me to turn toward a spiritual path was seeking a balm for the amount of anguish that I was in as a young man.

And I won't say that I was lost and now I can see. I won't say that I was like immediately saved. It wasn't immediately, it didn't bring immediate clarity and peace or serenity or anything like that for me. It has been a long process, a long unfolding process, but it has been the richest, most rewarding process I've ever experienced.

And I won't say that I was lost and now I can see. I won't say that I was like immediately saved. It wasn't immediately, it didn't bring immediate clarity and peace or serenity or anything like that for me. It has been a long process, a long unfolding process, but it has been the richest, most rewarding process I've ever experienced.

And I won't say that I was lost and now I can see. I won't say that I was like immediately saved. It wasn't immediately, it didn't bring immediate clarity and peace or serenity or anything like that for me. It has been a long process, a long unfolding process, but it has been the richest, most rewarding process I've ever experienced.

And I'm now, again, like The Office, looking back on it, I'm so grateful. And isn't that interesting? how oftentimes the times in our lives we go through the greatest anguish, you get out a few years, especially five, 10, 15, 20 years, look back on it and go, oh my gosh, I'm so grateful I went through that. I'm so grateful.

And I'm now, again, like The Office, looking back on it, I'm so grateful. And isn't that interesting? how oftentimes the times in our lives we go through the greatest anguish, you get out a few years, especially five, 10, 15, 20 years, look back on it and go, oh my gosh, I'm so grateful I went through that. I'm so grateful.

And I'm now, again, like The Office, looking back on it, I'm so grateful. And isn't that interesting? how oftentimes the times in our lives we go through the greatest anguish, you get out a few years, especially five, 10, 15, 20 years, look back on it and go, oh my gosh, I'm so grateful I went through that. I'm so grateful.

If I hadn't, I wouldn't have found kind of the rich, rewarding path of spiritual discovery.

If I hadn't, I wouldn't have found kind of the rich, rewarding path of spiritual discovery.

If I hadn't, I wouldn't have found kind of the rich, rewarding path of spiritual discovery.

Well, yeah, that's an interesting question. You know, I'm much more balanced right now, but it's a different set of challenges at 58. You know, it's kind of like What should I be doing? What is my life really about? Am I on the best possible path for myself? A bit more existential? It's a little more existential. You have a little bit more of a sense of the end zone is up here.