Raja Shahadeh

And that is not going to work at all.

It will perpetuate more and more violence.

I can't speak for Hamas, but I know that in 2017, they proposed something which went along these lines of accepting the state of Israel, and Israel did not respond at all.

It said this is public relations.

It didn't take it seriously.

Well, the Haqq has been involved in helping the investigation by the ICC, by the International Criminal Court of Israeli crimes.

And that is something that we have been hoping for all along, that it will come to a point when we can take the case to the highest court in the world.

And so we gladly supported the investigation.

And to be sanctioned because of our attempts at going into a court of law is very strange and very problematic for a country like the United States, which proposes to be a country for the rule of law and for human rights.

Yes, but I think that even when I was young, I always had a mild tone.

Right, so it's you, not the generation.

And I've always tried to understand the other side because I wanted to be effective and be effective by understanding the other side and speaking to them in a language that they can understand.

And so I've always been hesitant to use language.

strident language and to be extremist in order to win the other side as well.

And that has been my efforts all along to win the other side, but it has never worked.

Never worked.

No, I think I'm going to continue on the same track because I think it is important to realize that we have two nations living on one small strip of land that eventually they have to live together.

And unless we try and make the others feel the humanity of us and likewise they of us and we of them, then we cannot survive on this small strip of land.

I would like the end of the Gaza siege, which has been going on for 18 years.

And I think that if the siege ends and people are able to visit Gaza, especially Israelis, and see what has been done to Gaza, then it might...