Ramin Nakisa

And that's a very cheap hobby.

And I don't really want that much out of life.

And I find that bling is not what makes me happy.

And I think you reach a certain point in your life when you realize what does and doesn't make you happy.

Some things, I mean, you think it's going to make you happy, like buying something or becoming some member of some community that you think is really aspirational.

And then when you get there, you think, you know, these people are assholes or, you know, this thing that I bought, it doesn't make me happy at all.

So for me, it was pretty much coming to that realization and that point in my life when I realized what it is I actually wanted.

And for me, fortunately, that's very, very cheap things.

Well, I've heard other people say the opposite.

Like I started off... Your ex-wife.

But I started off in academia.

I thought I wanted to do physics, astrophysics, and then I moved into biophysics.

And then I did...

I went to study cognitive psychology at Oxford.

You know, I did neural network modeling, which is really interesting now.

What was happening with AI, you know, I kind of get an insight into it because of that.

So I kind of drifted in that sense.

And then I went into banking.

But then banking, I kind of found what I was looking for, I think, because it was so interesting.

And finance applied the maths for something really practical.