Ramses

um and you know she was i felt in the pods was just as critical of just what she experienced and so this is her lived experience and i you can hear me say in the conversations like i don't want you to feel shame for what you your service and you know the time that you spent in the military obviously this is something that uh has shaped your life has shaped the person that you are and so at the end of the day you know we didn't land in the same camps in terms of you know our opinions about the military

um and you know she was i felt in the pods was just as critical of just what she experienced and so this is her lived experience and i you can hear me say in the conversations like i don't want you to feel shame for what you your service and you know the time that you spent in the military obviously this is something that uh has shaped your life has shaped the person that you are and so at the end of the day you know we didn't land in the same camps in terms of you know our opinions about the military

um and you know she was i felt in the pods was just as critical of just what she experienced and so this is her lived experience and i you can hear me say in the conversations like i don't want you to feel shame for what you your service and you know the time that you spent in the military obviously this is something that uh has shaped your life has shaped the person that you are and so at the end of the day you know we didn't land in the same camps in terms of you know our opinions about the military

But in that moment, even when she said, I feel like I'm being judged, I immediately stopped the conversation. And I held her hands and I told her, look, I don't want you to feel like I'm shaming you, trying to make you feel guilty for this. I understand my opinions are a lot more pointed than maybe most Americans. I know when it comes to the military, it's something that you just don't critique.

But in that moment, even when she said, I feel like I'm being judged, I immediately stopped the conversation. And I held her hands and I told her, look, I don't want you to feel like I'm shaming you, trying to make you feel guilty for this. I understand my opinions are a lot more pointed than maybe most Americans. I know when it comes to the military, it's something that you just don't critique.

But in that moment, even when she said, I feel like I'm being judged, I immediately stopped the conversation. And I held her hands and I told her, look, I don't want you to feel like I'm shaming you, trying to make you feel guilty for this. I understand my opinions are a lot more pointed than maybe most Americans. I know when it comes to the military, it's something that you just don't critique.

It's sort of like the golden calf. You don't speak ill of it. You just sort of thank veterans and folks who've been in the military for their service and you sort of leave it at that. And so I understand why she felt, you know, like she was being judged in that moment. And that, that wasn't my intent going into it.

It's sort of like the golden calf. You don't speak ill of it. You just sort of thank veterans and folks who've been in the military for their service and you sort of leave it at that. And so I understand why she felt, you know, like she was being judged in that moment. And that, that wasn't my intent going into it.

It's sort of like the golden calf. You don't speak ill of it. You just sort of thank veterans and folks who've been in the military for their service and you sort of leave it at that. And so I understand why she felt, you know, like she was being judged in that moment. And that, that wasn't my intent going into it.

But at the end of the day, I understand that, you know, what matters is impact versus intent. And so, yeah, it's a, it's a complicated conversation. We were speaking there for probably over an hour. And, you know, there's a lot of layers to it, a lot of nuance when you, when you talk about the politics, especially something like the military. So yeah, I mean, it's,

But at the end of the day, I understand that, you know, what matters is impact versus intent. And so, yeah, it's a, it's a complicated conversation. We were speaking there for probably over an hour. And, you know, there's a lot of layers to it, a lot of nuance when you, when you talk about the politics, especially something like the military. So yeah, I mean, it's,

But at the end of the day, I understand that, you know, what matters is impact versus intent. And so, yeah, it's a, it's a complicated conversation. We were speaking there for probably over an hour. And, you know, there's a lot of layers to it, a lot of nuance when you, when you talk about the politics, especially something like the military. So yeah, I mean, it's,

So I just want to clarify that we were both very critical, although it may have come across as he was just very pro-military and I'm just like, fuck the military, which is, you know, that's I think they made it look like very sort of sort of like if we were on opposite ends of the spectrum.

So I just want to clarify that we were both very critical, although it may have come across as he was just very pro-military and I'm just like, fuck the military, which is, you know, that's I think they made it look like very sort of sort of like if we were on opposite ends of the spectrum.

So I just want to clarify that we were both very critical, although it may have come across as he was just very pro-military and I'm just like, fuck the military, which is, you know, that's I think they made it look like very sort of sort of like if we were on opposite ends of the spectrum.

No, I appreciate the opportunity so much and just giving me an opportunity to speak on these topics that I know had people sort of just kind of jaw on the floor. So thank you.

No, I appreciate the opportunity so much and just giving me an opportunity to speak on these topics that I know had people sort of just kind of jaw on the floor. So thank you.

No, I appreciate the opportunity so much and just giving me an opportunity to speak on these topics that I know had people sort of just kind of jaw on the floor. So thank you.