Ramtin Arablui

How can there, and this is what worries me about the future of the country.

When economically for many people in this country, they don't feel like there's a possibility, right?

That that subtext is withered away or it feels like a distant kind of whisper.

You know, I think the question you're getting a lot is sort of what was the American Revolution really about, right?

One thing that comes out in your films, though, that I really try to emulate is that you also profile people or leaders in particular who have understood this subtext and this need for possibility, whether it's Grant or it's Lincoln or Roosevelt.

There's so many, just a list of these leaders that understood on some level for this to feel real, these ideas.

It has to feel real in people's lives.

where people feel like there's a... And right now, what I'm worried about is I'm not pointing to any particular leader, but I think we've had a series of leaders and just generally our leadership in Congress who don't seem to understand that these ideas don't mean anything if they don't feel like they're real in people's lives, if they don't feel like they can... That's exactly right.

Thanks so much.

early in the film, in this series, there's a clip from John Adams describing how the early resistance to the British was fueled by resentment, that there was a resentment towards the occupation.

And what that made me think about is like, that's like in the DNA of the American psyche in a lot of ways.

Exactly.

And that made me think about how this is at the root of our existence as a country is a violent resistance to the excesses of an occupation.

Then why do we struggle to understand whether it's Vietnam or Iraq or Afghanistan or Palestine?

Why do we struggle as Americans to then understand or have empathy for other anti-occupation movements?

And I appreciate you saying that, because I think one of the pressures in the podcasting world in which we work, because it was born out of individual narrative, which is obviously nothing wrong with that.

You profile many individual people, but it's done within a context, within a world.

Like you build a world and then the people live in that world.

And I think often if you tell the story without someone living in a world out of the context, then in a way you're missing the whole point of the story.

And I appreciate that you take that approach,