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Ramya Nagesh

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
144 total appearances

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Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

She told police that she'd thought that there was a fire.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

She'd been dreaming that there was a fire and she was trying to save her family.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

She had no previous convictions.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

Everybody said that she was a good mother.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

And her story that she'd been asleep at the time that she threw her baby out of the window was unheard of in England at the time.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

So then there was a debate between sort of the prosecution and the judge as to how they should proceed.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

And the judge, you know, wasn't really having any of it at first.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

He said, well, you know, she was probably drunk.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

If I let her go now, he said, she might go back to her family and throw another one out.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

But her solicitor pushed for there to be no charge in the case, and eventually the judge allowed her bail.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

Ultimately, there was never a trial in the case, and so effectively, her defense had been successful.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

There is a condition called REM sleep disorder where you can act out your dreams.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

But that's more rare than sleepwalking, which happens in a different stage of sleep when you're not dreaming.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

And so people don't tend to act out their dreams.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

Now, people generally are very aware of it.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

There was sort of an explosion, if you like, of sleepwalking cases, relatively speaking, in the early 2000s and mid-2000s.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

I think that's when it really started becoming something that people realized could lead you to commit crimes and therefore could be a defense.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

He was a married man.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

He had a history of sleepwalking.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

And at the time of the incident in question, he'd been under extreme financial stress.