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Ramya Nagesh

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
144 total appearances

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Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

The Supreme Court considered the matter in some detail and decided that actually the original judge was right.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

And they set out some principles for considering cases of sleepwalking and how it should be characterized by the courts.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

There are two aspects to it.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

And one is whether or not the person poses a continuing danger.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

And the second is whether or not the cause of the defect is internal or external.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

And they really kind of focused on the continuing danger aspect because on the medical evidence,

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

Kenneth Parks was highly unlikely to commit such an offence again whilst asleep.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

And so they said, well, effectively, in shorthand, they said there's no real point in finding him legally insane and sending him to hospital because there's nothing they can do for him.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

And so he was fully acquitted and went on to kind of live his life quite quietly.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

after that but that decision really made shockwaves nationally and internationally because it was the first time in modern history that somebody had committed such a brutal offence and been completely cleared of any responsibility because they'd been asleep so that's where we're left and I think that's why it exercises the public imagination so much and the public say well hang on a minute somebody's died here and we know who did it but we can't say anything more than that we can't do anything about it

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

And secondly, of course, the criminal law is based on punishment and rehabilitation of people who have consciously chosen to do things that are harmful to others or contrary to our kind of societal morals.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

And the difficulty is in sleepwalking, we lose our ability to control what we're doing.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

They will interview the defendant.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

They will sometimes conduct sleep studies, which is where somebody goes into a hospital.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

They fall asleep in a hospital.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

They spend the night in a hospital, but they're hooked up to all sorts of machines which monitor their breathing, their heart rate, their activity, their brainwaves.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

and then they determine, based on their history and the sleep study, the likelihood that they could have been sleepwalking at the time.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

So it's not an easy defense.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

It's not something that people can just fall onto and say, oh, I was asleep.

Criminal
Like a Bad Dream

At trial, Scott Folletta tried to claim he was sleepwalking.