Rand Abdel-Fattah

I mean, do you feel that he is, his message and his ideas resonate

apply just as much today as they did then?

Did he come out of the civil rights movement feeling...

Hopeful.

Because I look at the moment that we're in now and there's a lot of potential for change.

There's a lot of potential for a real kind of awareness, a reckoning with our history.

But there's also a potential for things to continue.

And I guess I wonder, is the ultimate kind of takeaway from Baldwin a sense of hope in where the country's headed?

Eddie Glaude is a professor at Princeton University and author of Begin Again, James Baldwin's America and its Urgent Lessons for Our Own.

I'm Randa Abdel-Fattah, and you've been listening to ThruLine from NPR.

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