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Rand Fishkin

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
181 total appearances

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SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
EP 368: From Blog to $40M/Yr, 23k Customers At Moz With Rand Fishkin

Those are the true challenges of a software-based business, and they are not apparent to you when you are searching out that problem as a consultant.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
EP 368: From Blog to $40M/Yr, 23k Customers At Moz With Rand Fishkin

So I would...

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
EP 368: From Blog to $40M/Yr, 23k Customers At Moz With Rand Fishkin

I would caution folks to think, hey, we have identified this pain point.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
EP 368: From Blog to $40M/Yr, 23k Customers At Moz With Rand Fishkin

There's only crappy software today that solves it or there's nothing that solves this pain point.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
EP 368: From Blog to $40M/Yr, 23k Customers At Moz With Rand Fishkin

And we know a bunch of people in this space.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
EP 368: From Blog to $40M/Yr, 23k Customers At Moz With Rand Fishkin

Let's build the software to do it.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
EP 368: From Blog to $40M/Yr, 23k Customers At Moz With Rand Fishkin

Just be prepared for the fact that you have identified the tip of an iceberg, not the iceberg itself.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
EP 368: From Blog to $40M/Yr, 23k Customers At Moz With Rand Fishkin

I think we were at 30, was it 39 million, 39.3, something around there.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
EP 368: From Blog to $40M/Yr, 23k Customers At Moz With Rand Fishkin

So in a self-service SaaS business, one of the challenges with, um, monthly churn rate is that you...

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
EP 368: From Blog to $40M/Yr, 23k Customers At Moz With Rand Fishkin

That is gross.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
EP 368: From Blog to $40M/Yr, 23k Customers At Moz With Rand Fishkin

So one of the challenges with monthly churn rate is that you can 6.3 percent could be a terrible churn rate, but it could also be a pretty decent or even a reasonably good churn rate.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
EP 368: From Blog to $40M/Yr, 23k Customers At Moz With Rand Fishkin

And that is because of how cohorts can work.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
EP 368: From Blog to $40M/Yr, 23k Customers At Moz With Rand Fishkin

So, for example, if I told you.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
EP 368: From Blog to $40M/Yr, 23k Customers At Moz With Rand Fishkin

In paying month one and two, my churn rate is above 40%.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
EP 368: From Blog to $40M/Yr, 23k Customers At Moz With Rand Fishkin

But after that, it drops to below 2%.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
EP 368: From Blog to $40M/Yr, 23k Customers At Moz With Rand Fishkin

Great.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
EP 368: From Blog to $40M/Yr, 23k Customers At Moz With Rand Fishkin

Well, that's great.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
EP 368: From Blog to $40M/Yr, 23k Customers At Moz With Rand Fishkin

Right.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
EP 368: From Blog to $40M/Yr, 23k Customers At Moz With Rand Fishkin

That is absolutely just fine.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
EP 368: From Blog to $40M/Yr, 23k Customers At Moz With Rand Fishkin

Right.