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Randa Abdelfattah and Ramteen Arablui

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Appearances Over Time

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Al Capone and the transformation of the IRS

People like Vivian Kellams made it their life's mission to fight back against the government,

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Al Capone and the transformation of the IRS

that they thought had gotten way too big.

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Al Capone and the transformation of the IRS

Vivian was invited onto talk shows.

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Al Capone and the transformation of the IRS

She was one of the first women interviewed on Meet the Press, and she even took the IRS to court.

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Al Capone and the transformation of the IRS

And these voices coalesced into a new movement.

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Al Capone and the transformation of the IRS

The new right that we think about today in the 1980s and 1990s and beyond, that the origins of the new right really do lie in the 1930s and the kind of business reaction to the power of the New Deal, the remaking of labor relations and the growth of organized labor.

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Al Capone and the transformation of the IRS

Jason Scott Smith says so much of how people think about the government, of the taxes they pay, and of their role in all of that boils down to trust.

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Al Capone and the transformation of the IRS

To what extent do people trust the government to do the right thing with their tax money?

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Al Capone and the transformation of the IRS

To what extent do people feel like they are getting good value for their money?

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Al Capone and the transformation of the IRS

And without an Elmer Irie in the picture, someone to be the trustworthy face of the government, building that goodwill has proven difficult for the agency entrusted with our taxes.

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Al Capone and the transformation of the IRS

In the century since, the IRS has been embroiled in scandals, political retribution, and not everyone is always paying their fair share.

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Al Capone and the transformation of the IRS

So it's not unreasonable to ask, What am I paying?

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Al Capone and the transformation of the IRS

Who's getting away with not paying?

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Al Capone and the transformation of the IRS

And in our present moment, we have a president who's proud of the fact that he's avoided taxes for many years, that he knows so much about the tax code that he can do that.

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Al Capone and the transformation of the IRS

But this imperfect system is what helps keep the lights on, the roads operating, the water running.

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Al Capone and the transformation of the IRS

Taxes are the price we pay for civilization.

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Al Capone and the transformation of the IRS

There's an element of truth to that.

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Al Capone and the transformation of the IRS

After all, taxes do pay for the core functions of a government.

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Al Capone and the transformation of the IRS

To provide protection at home, a court system.

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Al Capone and the transformation of the IRS

and national defense and those kinds of things that keep order and allow for us in a free society to be prosperous.