Ray D'Arcy

And we'll talk about how the majority of the world isn't represented through AI later on in our chat, because we can have a long chat.

There's no rush.

But first, the power struggle, because it is like the race to the moon.

It is like the arms race, because as well as the companies like Anthropic and OpenAI competing against each other,

It appears that there's a power struggle there between America and China and neither want the other to win the race because there's so much power, anticipated power, in who gets to the holy grail of artificial general intelligence first.

It's hard to get people interested in this because it's a sort of an intangible thing.

People speak about it jokingly, probably for a lot of people.

It's not real beyond asking chat GPT how to fix the boiler or something like that.

And when people talk about doom and gloom and robots taking over the world, they sort of eye roll and go, well, that's never going to happen.

So it's an intangible thing that may or may not happen in the future.

And yes, we need everybody's buy in to make sure that there's controls there.

OK, well, let's just equate it to other things that have happened.

And climate change is one.

So it's very difficult to sell a message of changing your behaviour to a global problem.

to somebody in Ballyhaughness or Lifford in County Donegal because they feel that it doesn't matter what they do, it's going to have little or no effect on the global outcome.

And I think it's similar with AI.

It's sort of, it's up there away from them.

Big billionaires talking about it, politicians talking about it.

But in their world, it's not important enough.

And as I say, it's in the future and it's intangible.