Ray D'Arcy

Truly inspirational.

But yes, she's a therapist, as you know.

And she asks that question because to get to the heart of childhood trauma.

Because in her opinion, you know, we should live out a childhood in the normal scheme of things.

But oftentimes our childhood is truncated because of neglect or trauma or something like that.

And you were told by your brother who was told by some guy down there.

And it was 1980 in Ireland.

And it was this shameful thing, suicide.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's interesting.

We were speaking to Catriona O'Sullivan.

Yeah.

And she has been through a fair bit of trauma, but she also understands it now because she's a psychologist.

And she was saying that if there is a trauma, a single trauma...

And then immediately after, soon after, somebody steps in to make sense of that for the child.

So that they can internalize it and bring it into their reality, that then the effect of the trauma is going to be lessened.

But that didn't happen with... No, with any of us, I think.

And ever present then.

Yeah.

Ever present reminders of what had happened because you stayed in the house.