Ray Dalio

to take control of Taiwan, unless the United States crosses that line, pushes that line.

Now, so the way that it is understood, and just by different parties,

is it's understood by the Chinese to be the way I describe it.

Look, it's been promised, it's here.

I mean, no, that's an uncompromisable thing.

And Americans, I think, think about this communist dictatorial bully

that is trying to take a free country, a free people, and in a, you know, aggressive way take over them, and that we need to defend liberty and protect them from that, okay?

I just want to emphasize it's more complicated than that in the way that I said.

And also, it's like...

From the Chinese point of view, it's part of the American containment strategy, which means China has grown and it's become a higher percentage of world economy and so on, and it's expanding.

And it's like Taiwan is the lid on this boiling pot.

If you want to know what really happens,

watch it the way I describe it.

In other words, is it unprovoked or is it provoked in the way I just described it?

Now, again, I'm a very realistic person.

I'm not an ideological person.

I'm not trying to, okay.

I'm just like, how does reality work?

And what's the move?

What's the next move?