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Ray Madoff

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
172 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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Taxes and Tariffs

But they are not like just foregoing salary.

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Taxes and Tariffs

Instead, they are being compensated through the enormous growth in value of their stock.

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Taxes and Tariffs

Buffett's wealth has grown by $50 billion over the past two to three years.

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Taxes and Tariffs

Zuckerberg's has grown by $100 billion.

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Taxes and Tariffs

Larry Ellison's has grown by more than $200 billion.

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Taxes and Tariffs

Okay, this is just over the past couple of years.

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Taxes and Tariffs

It enables them to continue to control their companies, but it also enables them to avoid taxes because under our tax system, you do not pay any taxes unless you sell.

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Taxes and Tariffs

So these guys are worth a lot, but it's all just sort of hoarded.

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Taxes and Tariffs

Now, you might say, but yes, they must sell, though, because they want to support their lavish lifestyles.

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How else is Larry Ellison going to buy his island of Lanai, which he owns all the businesses, all the real estate?

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Taxes and Tariffs

Here is how they own all their fancy stuff.

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The way that they do it is they borrow against those funds because there is always somebody available to lend them money at quite favorable rates.

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And borrowing is entirely tax-free.

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Taxes and Tariffs

And as long as their wealth grows faster than that rate of interest that they're charged, which it does, then they just always end up ahead.

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Taxes and Tariffs

Yeah, or whoever first lent it to you is happy to keep lending it to you because they're carrying a loan for which they're being paid.

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Taxes and Tariffs

If somebody lends Larry Ellison $100 million and Larry Ellison is paying them whatever interest rate they want, they're happy.

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Taxes and Tariffs

These are people in the business of making loans, and they're happy to keep those loans outstanding.