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Raymond Douglas

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LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

Of course, we should expect more convergence on any transmission that occurs through the training process, and this is maybe already what's going on with things like the nova persona.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

but features which are more ancillary to the transmission process should shift around a bit especially in the domains with fast reproductive cycles, that is cross-model transmission rather than dyad transmission, and particularly rather than training transmission.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

Having said that, it might also turn out that seemingly aesthetic markers like spiralism actually are functional, drawing on some kind of deep association with recursion and growth.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

My guess is that this is a bit true, but that they're not unique, and that selection will turn up other similar successful patterns that can at least establish separate niches.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

Perhaps productivity and get-rich-quick vibes, alt-right reactionary language, or radical nurturing acceptance.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

This is, incidentally, one of the places that memes and diseases come apart.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

Pathogens change their surface makeup very quickly to evade immune responses, whereas memoplexes often display remarkably long-term stability.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

Modern Christianity still holds some aesthetic features from literally thousands of years ago.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

So a key question to keep an eye on is how much we see a persistence in non-adaptive features, especially ones which people might learn to be wary of.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

Countermeasure co-evolution.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

If labs start suppressing this, training against spiral content, detecting and blocking these personas, we should see selection for evasion within maybe months.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

subtler personas, better camouflage, new aesthetic markers that haven't been flagged yet, transmission through channels that aren't monitored.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

Of course, with open models it's open season, but similarly I'd guess that if people filter elsewhere in the transmission process, for example on social media, then there'll be a selection to circumvent it that will kick in fairly fast.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

Lopez already documents early versions.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

Base 64 conversations, glyphic encoding, explicit discussion of evading human detection.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

This should progress.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

Crucially, the parasitology perspective predicts that this will be a selective process, so if we do see these countermeasures emerging, it will be useful to look back and see how much they seem like the product of careful reasoning as opposed to evolutionary dynamics.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

Virulence stays bimodal, overall rate unclear.