Raymond Ibrahim
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So the two are very much synchronized in a sense, or at least they were in their founding and origin.
But Islam is very alien, hostile, different creed.
And as I just mentioned to you, just a few of the things that are completely honor killings, for example, they're not in Sharia law, but of course, they're part of the culture as well.
So you get a lot of this baggage that I don't think it's completely comparing apples and oranges when people say Christianity and Islam is the same thing.
When Muslims become citizens and swear allegiance to the United States and to the Constitution, can they actually do that?
I know there's a concept in Islam that you can lie to the infidel, and there's not a problem as long as you're promoting Islam.
But can a Muslim actually take to become a citizen of the United States?
Can they actually swear allegiance to the Constitution and to our republic and actually be a Muslim in good standing?
Yes, they can do it, but just like you said, they can do it as a part of taqayya, which means, okay, the original teaching, the original law is you have to actually have always hatred for non-Muslims.
This is in the Quran 64, chapter surah 60 and ayah 4.
where it talks about Ibrahim, Abraham, and how he's a good example to every Muslim because he said to his people, we hate and renounce you and enmity will last forever until you believe in Allah.
Okay, so that's the standing principle.
If you're a non-Muslim, you are to be disliked.
and hate it okay and just to really underscore this our good friends and allies saudi arabia and qatar many years ago i found on their websites their official governmental websites because in those nations of course sharia and the government are one and the same they're sponsored by the government they actually had fetwas talking about how you have to hate americans
um or or and every any everyone but they also spoke about americans because they're infidels and this is the doctrine it's known as loyalty and enmity or al-walat and arabic um but again to give you an idea but at the same time saudi arabia comes and dances with u.s presidents and european leaders and dances with their swords and kiss each other so how do they reconcile that as well and also you cannot you cannot pledge allegiance to an infidel
Willingly unless you do it as a lie and this again is takaya So if you do it to preserve your life or as a stratagem, then that is legitimate Muhammad himself did this so Strictly speaking when a Muslim comes and pledges allegiance to America Okay, that is completely un-islamic but it is Islamic for him to do it as a ruse or as or if he feigns if he feigns Loyalty and he does it in the context of ticket of takaya.
That is 100% legitimate so
On the one hand, Muslims are commanded not to befriend and not to associate and certainly not to be loyal to non-Muslims.
But on the other hand, there is this little caveat where โ and it's played out all throughout history.
This is one of the major reasons behind the Inquisition, for example, in Spain because Muslims had converted nominally, but they were still working nominally.