Raymond

for secondary schools across a number of countries, not just Australia.

There's quite a few jargon in there.

So I think OECD essentially is trying to lift the standards of education.

But it's not the only thing that they're trying to do.

They're trying to lift the quality of life and other aspects that are important to human beings.

Yeah, that's right.

When I was listening into the call, I found this technology to be quite unreal, to be honest, because I've been accustomed to sitting on my exams physically and haven't really done a test digitally.

And for a camera to be able to pick up your movements and what you're doing and also the movements within the room is quite amazing.

And

I think I just wanted to expand on that international student assessment.

That assessment's not trying to develop your standard scorecard and benchmark or league tables within schools, but it's actually trying to help students build real life skills.

So to improve their critical thinking skills and also emotional intelligence skills.

So in terms of the actual platform, they're trying to formulate questions where they're assessing a student's ability to deal with certain situations and

what they would do in certain case studies and also assess their emotional states as well and trying to provide examples or tests that can really show them what's the right way to approach everyday tasks.

So I think a lot of people can relate to first starting out as a graduate and then

I think communication skills is very important and emotional relationship building skills is very important.

So it provides guidance on that.

Janus is scaling at the moment and they're rolling a lot of those assessments and programs across the globe.

So I think the key risk at the moment or the next five years would be the ability to scale and to keep those employee costs down because at the moment that's probably the biggest operational costs that we're seeing with the rollout of all these assessments and

especially the program for international student assessment.