Rebecca Black
Appearances
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
If you want to feel like big and mighty on yourself as a boob, boob? Man? I meant to say man. Hello? As a boob.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
It's so different. It's so different. I mean, I have a live show that has dancers and choreography and props and boobs.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
I try. Yeah, I love it. I mean, I've been working with this choreographer, Richie Jackson, who did Bad Romance and all the early Gaga stuff that... Um, he just like gets what I want to do and we work so well together and I live for that. But, um, DJ sets are so I am in, like, I'm not looking around. I, I watched that boiler room set and I was like, girl, have some fun. You look so serious.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
um i'm not trying to be cool like i am literally just like where is everything what's happening i'm locked in um and so it can it just is so it's so different it's literally just me i walk up there i do my thing i go um and with like a live set like and also that's that's the difference with djing is i don't really plan my sets out like i plan my first song
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
and i might plan my last song and everything else i just kind of like throw a bunch of shit in there and i'm like let's see what i feel because i like to see what the room what the vibe is yeah okay period um and with a live show like it's you know we know what we're doing to the minute and the second yeah so it's just like a different kind of um adrenaline djing i get way more adrenaline i think beforehand because i'm like what the what is gonna happen out
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
But yeah, it's different. But I like having both. And I was honestly scared to DJ, I think, for a long time on bigger stages because I was like, I am relinquishing a piece of control into technology. Which, again, with my show, I'm like, even if the whole system fails, I'll just be like, hello. Yeah, I can, like, make it up from there.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Whereas I think with with tech like CDJs, there's always something fucked up in there. Like, yeah, it's always weird happens. So it's, you know, it's fun.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
It's weird. Yeah. It's weird. And then throw the fact that you're Rebecca Black on top of that. And it's a little bit weirder. Yeah. I mean, that's what was so interesting about Boiler Room is like, I did that knowing that, okay, either people are really going to have opinions on this or they're not going to care. And that's totally fine too.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
And I think it was fascinating to see a couple clips get posted from Boiler Room before the set even went live. And everyone was like, oh, not another celebrity DJ who doesn't know what she's doing and is not pressing any buttons or whatever. Um, and it was just like a very fast kind of, this is not going to be good. Yep. Even though they'd seen maybe like 15 seconds of an hour long set. Yeah.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Um, and it's fascinating to watch the, the like electronic world and dance world, I think is still like very largely gate kept and I get it. It's in this place where like people are really embracing dance music and like queer people are really, like, being, I think, pushed to the forefront.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Thanks to a lot of, like, amazing trans DJs and drag DJs. Yeah. And even, like, someone like Charlie, like, bringing Boiler Room and, like, that kind of music to the forefront. But a lot of, like, white boys had a lot of thoughts and opinions. Oh, I bet. Don't they always? I just wanted them to listen to the set. For me, I'm just like, the set's not out, so I don't know what you've watched.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
I mean, I've been doing this for a long time. So there's been so many different iterations of like me thinking I know what I'm doing and, you know, either falling on my face or just getting my getting getting information and figuring this whole thing out. And the last like four years have been like a really steady process.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Always, always. And at this point, like, I... I think being on the internet for so long, I, I will, I love to watch the conversation happen. Like I will sit back and just let, I feel like Regina George and mean girls where like, I'm like, I just give you, I gave you the info off the shoulder. This isn't about me really. Like if you want to feel like big and mighty on yourself as a boob boob,
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
man i meant to say man hello as a boob or a munch if you will as a munch as a munch um live your truth but like i think if anything these conversations are um only like lighting the fire under all of the women in music and gay people and like um
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Yeah. I mean, it honestly has been, well, it's been something I've done a lot of therapy on. And I have, God, I've talked about this so much and sometimes I really don't even know what to say. But I think I am lucky to have an urge to dissociate at times. And that has been one of the protective mechanisms that has really helped me and also probably hindered me at moments of growth.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
I think it's really... The big challenge that I had to face within myself was just being as young as I was. I was 13 years old when Friday happened. I never know how to say that. When Friday hit the second tower. I don't know. That's your 9-11.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
I feel like journey of figuring out how to like put what's in my head on a paper, um, with everything that I do. And I definitely think like this last, um, this current album that I'm putting out and, um, I'm in the process of releasing like feels like it couldn't have existed without literally everything that came before. Totally. And it's just exciting to see people really like get it. Yeah.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
I promise you that. But anyway, being that young and having so many people be so quick to be like... you did a really bad thing like you really fucked up which is so bad what exactly was it bad or did you just like not care for it like those are two very different trains of thought you know what i'm saying people on the internet really use the internet as a tool to like
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
unleash their frustrations i think at the time and project yes at the time i didn't know this being that i was a kid but um yeah i just i took i think i was in a place where i had no sense of self and i was just like trying to figure it out like i was because you're a child i was you know in the eighth grade um
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
And being that young, it just was really hard to, I think, develop like a identity that wasn't based around what other people thought of me and being accepted. And so that's been a challenge and doing that in an industry where like people hate women a lot of the time and have... Such unreasonable expectations of women just made that even harder.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
I have crazy, crazy stories about crazy people I could tell for many days, but I just feel really lucky again to like have always had, even when at times it was maybe two people. online rooting for me and being like, you got this. I feel really lucky to have them.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
And also to be in a place where like, I would not be where I am now if it weren't for the people who I've met in the industry over the past few years who have been like, no go, like you got it.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
I'll step back I'll help you out but like do what you gotta do yeah um and it's so it like hate and opinions and and all of that like just feel so outside of my orbit and like I love that I think that's great I think I've watched so many people on the internet really struggle with criticism. It's not even criticism. Criticism is one thing. It's like being perceived and hate.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Hate and the cancellation and everything. It feels like a war that you have to win by saying the last word.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
What I've learned is, like, the last word is being so unbothered by it. Yeah. And I feel grateful to, like, be at a place where, like, I'm pretty unbothered. Yeah. To a degree. Period.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
And respond to it. Absolutely. I know a lot of people see my name and they think one thing or they have expectations and I love to betray them. Right. Exactly. So it's been really, really exciting to see people like see what I've seen for a long time.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Yeah, I mean, like, we're all figures to people, and we're all not real.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
There was actually this one thing I did years ago. There was a show that aired for, like, three episodes, and I think it was called Hater. And it was, like, some random CW, like, kind of coming out of the early 2000s trash reality TV situations where there were, like, all those really bizarre shows. And basically kind of, like, punked or, like, one of those type shows.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
And they had me shoot an episode for it. And I was probably 15 or 14 at the time where basically you would have, they would find, they would cast like a real like hater. That's crazy.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Oh, I'm not doing that. And every episode, like I think Kim Kardashian did an episode, a few other people. And you would spend the day with a hater.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Basically. And the whole point was to, in some very unsettling way, get this hater to humanize with you and for the person to humanize with the hater or whatever. And so I did this. I spent the day with this, I think it was a woman in her late 20s, early 30s. When you were 14? Yeah.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
yeah and we had a conversation at the end of the interview where like i basically was like fully in tears like not understanding why this girl was just like going off at you at me yeah the whole day was just like i hate i i mean back like just in just in general conversation like oh yeah it's like oh i fucking hate you yeah what yeah
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
i would love to re-watch this footage but basically at the end of the of the uh the point i'm getting to is at the end of the day we got to this conversation where she something literally like clicked in her brain and she was like i didn't think you were real like i
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
It took 12 hours of literally being next to this girl, like in every Uber we were together, like in every or whatever it was like we were. She just couldn't get this like out of her mouth of like, I hate you. It's so unprofessional. And then we probably got into this whole conversation.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
But it's really real that people don't they really see you as like you're there for their entertainment, you know, which I get it. Like, I'm a pop star. Like, I'm there to entertain, to entertain and do, you know, choreo for you and make you feel good about yourself and escape and all of that. But the depths that people take it to is amazing.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
It never aired, but I just would love, if anyone knows.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
yeah do you hear how fucking dumb you sound like do you hear how mentally unwell you sound in this comment it's misplaced it's definitely misplaced and like i i get i get why the internet is like a place for people to use their anonymity to kind of like you know again like unleash whatever it is on people but there's so there's so many other ways we can work that out girl like
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
I think it's exciting that we're in a place where clear, like times are weird. The energy in the air, not great right now in the world. And I think people are looking for a way to cope and seeing the way that like dance music and pop music and like
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
everything can be a real a real escape like a real unleashing of energy a real like like voodoo doll that you can use on yourself to to experience joy experience joy and like find community absolutely that i'm i'm hoping in time we're in a place where things will work itself out but I'm not always, you know, confident, confident.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Yeah. I mean, like same thing. It's been such a long kind of journey of navigating it. And also the landscape of music has changed so much over the past like 13 years. Yeah. Whereas I think even like five years ago, I remember maybe it was a little bit long. I don't know. Whenever it was that I was like figuring out my sexuality, which was a little longer than five years ago.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
So I know your names. I know everything about you.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Well, actually, my fans, I think, are truly, like, some of the coolest people I've ever met.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
We should distinguish.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Yes. I've never had, like, a... I'm trying to think if I've had, like, a rude fan moment. Even though that would be fierce, honestly, if someone was just, like... Brashing through.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Um, but no, I've, what I've heard from, from people who come to my shows and, and who I've met is like that the, it's such a welcoming energy, which is, which I think is like on, that comes from what we set forth and like the, you know, kind of rhetoric that we give our people because that, that is the thing is like you are building an audience and cultivating like an environment and, and,
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
even though I don't think we're entirely responsible for every little action that everyone can make, because that would be impossible.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
yes and for marginalized people in general yes totally totally totally and like it's um i forgot what i was actually gonna say right there that's all right i got you queen um as far as like yeah as far as rude people who recognize you have you ever had any of those any sillies like that so many i mean back in the day yes like i i
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
But at the point where I was like starting to make gay stuff, I had a lot of people tell me like, I don't know if you want to make this a part of your brand or like pigeonhole yourself or anything. And now it feels like every artist is dying to be gay. Right.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
remember being in like a mall and like people never want to like really come up to you and do something in your face yeah again that would be like pulling up a hate comment and reading it to them yeah um but i've just had so many like weird sly interactions and and all of that and
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Um, I like, I think as a kid and especially being like, maybe when I was in my hometown, that felt scary, but it's been a really long time since I've had a weird moment like that. And now I'm just like, if that were ever to, I'd be like, you're weird.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Apparently I'm both.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
But I think I'm probably a little bit more extroverted. T. Me too.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Those are uncomfortable always.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
like they wish and pray that they are gay because it's the year of being gay so I don't know I mean for me like I've always just lived my life like as a huge fan of the pop space as a queer person and I owe my life to gay people like even before I knew my world and my piece of being queer like I Gay people were always the people who rooted for me when everyone was like, I don't know about her.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Totally. And people like that, like, I've definitely had similar experiences like that where people will confuse me for the wrong person or think we went to high school together or something. And, like, people have these knee-jerk reactions where they don't think – they just – Again, they see and they're like, oh, I've seen that. Yeah, I have to say something.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
And it's like the amount of years I would have left on my life if people just thought was the one that really sticks out for me is I was like 15 and I was at Disneyland. I don't go to Disneyland much because like even though I grew up in Orange County, I That's so expensive. Yeah. So I was at Disneyland and I remember I was in the like pizza parlor, the like space.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Situation. And I was mid spaghetti bite and someone just like ran over, posed for a photo next to me as I'm literally like, ah. and then just ran away. And I was like, that's so, Oh God.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
It makes me feel so want to be perceived like that.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
It's tough. It's definitely one of the stranger parts. And, like, I really respect everything that Chapel's done this year in inserting a boundary for herself. Mm-hmm. There's so much about so much conversation about, you know, well, of course, you knew what you were walking into or you asked for this as part of the job. But like not many jobs have like unclockable hours.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
And it is it's just a it's not super hard to be respectful. And so many people are. But the few that aren't you. are remembered you live up here every every city we go to venues will ask for a list of faces that you don't want to let in the door and like sometimes people do things that are really scary or like uncomfortable and um you might have your face on there
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Totally. Totally. I think like I see people trying to have a conversation in a way that's constructive. And what I think would be more constructive for everyone globally is like, let's question the way that we idolize people and the relationships we have with the way that we I think this goes even back to like the ways that the expectations people set for people on the Internet and all that.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Like, I think every figure on the internet. And I've seen this with people like Trisha or, um, or like chapels or Doja or who you could put every Brittany, like you could put every person in there. Me. Um, I've experienced this firsthand.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
I think I've seen the way that like the internet and, and not just the internet culture historically uses people like us and, and women particularly to build up when they're born and,
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
yeah and ready for it and then once they are comfortable take them down for the story yeah and the conversation and as like a catharsis piece and then they'll build them back up yeah and then they'll take them back down yeah and then they'll do it as much as they can until someone just like really becomes unbothered by it.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
And I, truly, I am always curious to see like where culture will go in the ways that like, again, people really are building these like deep, deep parasocial relationships with, with,
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
everyone that they see online and i get it i get it like we're all because at the end of the day like we're all human people just using our socials at the end of the day so of course we come across as like friends and yeah totally people you really know um so i don't know i don't know what the answers are to fix it i'm just watching it right as a girl observing it and keeping an eye on it because you have to yeah because you're also in the spotlight so yeah yeah something you have to keep your finger on the pulse
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Try. I just think like I check in with myself as this is like people who I really idolize. Like, why am I so let down by this thing that they did? I don't know them. Never met him before in my life. You know?
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
They were like, she's fierce. Trust me. You guys are sleeping on her.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
And it's because of them that I was like, maybe you're right, I guess. I don't know.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Yeah, and add on top of that, in the ways that Twitter and TikTok and Instagram and everything are structured, one other piece of this that, again, don't know what to do about this, I'm just witnessing it, is everyone's opinion now has a way to be uplifted and be part of the conversation. I think that when something happens or someone does something and it creates conversation now,
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
um that's so t i love that it's i mean it's true they're never wrong they're never wrong they champion a horse it's something so whatever the world is like shitting on and the gays are loving it i mean look at addison exactly that's a perfect example we have been on addison when obsessed came out i was possessed like i was loving it and was like what do you mean and you said people don't see it people don't see the art no and here and here she is
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
any person's opinion has the ability to get 100 000 likes on twitter and now you see them in the comments and they're promoting some like sunset lamp and like they're making money off it so everyone's benefiting or like trying to benefit off of these conversations yeah so it's just a it's a weird one that whoever did this whoever got us here
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
fix it fix it because i look at i have a nine-year-old sister and she doesn't know yet i don't think like she's she doesn't have socials or anything like that thank god um and i hope she never does ever but um i i watch as a big sister and and try to learn from her because they're i i'm so curious how she's digesting in it and it scares me
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
To know what it was for me, I get scared for what it'll be like for her.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
because i i did and they're like well i don't like it okay all right click away yeah exactly exactly so to circle back to music i would love to know who's a dream collaborator of yours oh my god um i have so many honestly i'm obsessed with fk twigs have been for so long that would be cool that would be Oh, I love that.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
There's so there's so many artists, though, that I would love to work with so many producers. I gosh, I mean, I've like always the people who know that are the people who know I've been like. a Charlie truther literally since 2013 in my room in high school. Um, and I love, I love what chapel's doing. I love like, I think there's so many amazing people out there. Period. You said all of them.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
well yeah yeah i did say there's so many people that are are good so anyone who is good what if you could collaborate with someone who's not alive anymore oh uh i'm like who's not alive let me think of all the dead people i know probably someone like a bowie oh that'd be cool um i don't know what we would do but it'd be something
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
um honestly a weird one for me because i really grew up listening to so much of his music and i you know i don't know if i would make the choice today but i was a huge michael jackson fan growing up oh it's huge okay my mom was like big and again did you have the michael jackson we game the dance one wait no oh some fan
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
I like the beat, you know, like the music. I don't know why he came to my head as the only dead person I can think of other than David Bowie.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
i was like apparently i was like leaking lana songs i don't know people love to like bring that up and i don't remember that at all but i guess so yeah um i was a i was a believer oh gee okay huge believer huge directioner oh love who's your fave this is this is the sort of so i yeah already
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
i get it though i get it though um but yeah things have things have grown but i i mean i feel like 2014 was like prime prime like fandom cultivating um i loved one direction too yeah who were you a fan of i was i was uh oh like just in general fangirl well both
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Thanks for having me.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
My mom was like, oh, okay. Whoa. That's huge. Which one? I was a Nick girl. Wow. See, I was more Joe. I was more Joe focused.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
I'm gonna listen to exactly and they picked you exactly and I remember seeing like a tweet once that was like every gay is like born with essentially like not like a godmother but like a woman that he will have to or they will have to defend for the rest of their life
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
See, the lesbians... it's all there it's all you just have to like get a little like but breadcrumbs are so prominent yeah move a little like joe and i i hope these men know that it's a compliment and they should feel very lucky absolutely that lesbians like that lesbians don't like very many people they don't especially men they don't but they like justin bieber they like joe jonas um
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Yeah. That's pretty much it. I'm trying to think of who else I was. I was really standing. Oh, you know what I did when I was in, when I was like 10, I remember I, I would like collect all the J 14, like mags and put them on my walls and all that. And I thought that like the PO box addresses on the back were just their home addresses. I was like, this is great. Like, this is really cool.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Like I should go here.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Basically. And so one year I remember I cut my yearbook photo out of my yearbook and I saw Zac Efron had a P.O. box situation there. And I was like, well, I'm just going to mail him a letter. And so I put my little yearbook photo, which I had my full retainer. It was fourth grade.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
love flow retainer everything wrote him a letter and i sent it thinking like i'm this is my new pen pal like i'm gonna get a response and i waited oh my god i wonder what he's gonna say he's gonna be so caught off guard he's gonna be he's gonna think i'm gorgeous first of all so this is me by the way yeah um me like chubby little retainer girl um 10 i love that and he was probably
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
21 or something uh and yeah i i'm still waiting i guess for a response i'd love to know if it got opened right because maybe i want a huge fan of the show i got ron if you're here he's also like five six isn't that crazy
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Oh, my God. Thank you. No, people think I'm tall, but I'm really average.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
whether or not like life or death matters on it so it's you know i just i really appreciate the way that honestly it's given me so much confidence over the years to like know i have a a world there and and gay people are like such a big part of my audience and so t their geniuses yeah they really are and they know their shit they know they know who's fierce and who's not like you were saying they do they were like you guys are gonna wish that you were on the ground floor exactly
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Oh, my God. I'm excited to be here.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
I'm so excited for people to hear it at all because it takes a long time to get an album from finish to into people's ears. And it's called Salvation. And it's it's something I'm really deeply proud of. And I think it's the most risks I've ever taken in making an album before.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
i think it'll add a lot of context like um when people see me do boiler room and they see me do all of the things that i'm doing like this album has existed for a long time like these songs were made a year ago um and i am just excited for people to get to see where i've been yeah um and i think i've really like put my head down and
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
over the last like really I mean I've lived in LA for almost 10 years I've been just trying to get to the place where I feel like I'm making some of the songs that I've made on this project they just feel like things that I'm like see I knew it I knew I knew it was in there I knew I needed to just like
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
jiggle it out um and i yeah again i feel really grateful to be in a landscape where like people are ready for people to tell stories and um that's what i'm here to do love what do you hope people take away after they listen to it I hope it's an escape. I hope that it provides relief. I hope people have fun. I hope people fuck to it. I hope people kiss like whatever. Do what you want.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Do what you want with it. I just that like I I hope people really take the universe with them and it inspires them to take that into themselves. Like I am truly who I am because of like the albums that raised me and created the like
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
story within my life I wanted for myself and I think that was what I really wanted to do with this album was like tap into a version of myself that I want to be more which is like I think I'm a pretty like normal person Sorry, reveal. But I look at like the most delusional, like grandiose, like crazy people. And I'm like, God, I want to live like you. Like, I can't lie.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Every time I see a JoJo Siwa TikTok and I'm like, that's so wrong. Yeah. But that must feel so free. Like, that must feel so stunning to be that, like, you know.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
I'm like, oh, what must it be like? I know it's miserable. But there's a second where I'm like, that.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
that i can't but i want to be that and i think that like this record was just me tapping into like what that would look like in a way that's not destructive exactly in a way that is like i am understanding something about myself that you don't get um and it's not about that because i'm feeling freedom and i'm feeling empowered and you know god bless
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
I think maybe this is my delusional bit. I think that if you do the work and put your head down and focus on creating something that means something to you, it doesn't matter if it doesn't hit the first time. It doesn't matter if at first it's not totally realized. If you continue to look around you, Gather and put substance into what you're doing. That is always worth it.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
That is always worthwhile. There is there the best like artists that I know and the best musicians I know. I true I know that there is this like. Banner for success or... Like measure of success. Measure of success that we all look for. But some of my... The artists that have meant the most to me in my life are songs with like a thousand streams. And I love them.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
And I think those artists are... You never know where your art is really truly hitting until suddenly one day you look back and you're like, wow, where have I been for the last 10 years? And I think... no one knows or will ever know what you're trying to do better than you. So like as like cheesy as it is, like get in there, get in there, write it down, get it out. Um, and, and finish it.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Like that's, that's also the biggest piece of advice I can give is I talked to so many artists or like people I know that are really talented and want to be artists. And they're like, Oh, I've been making this album for like 10 years. And I'm like, we'll, we'll put it out because then when you finish it, Or even just finish it. Don't put it out. Finish it.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Then you can start again and make something better. And that's all I've done for the last 13 years of my life.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Is make really bad stuff.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
So that it can get a little bit less, you know.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Oh, that's an interesting question. I mean. It's it's a weird place and it's changed so much and it's still I was just having a conversation about like the way it is literally changing in its structure all the time.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Period. And stream the album when it comes out. And trust.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
And I think it's really exciting to watch pop have like the renaissance that it's having and see the way that like I remember six years ago in 2018, like we were all vibing to rap music, which I love rap music.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
But there were no girls like it felt like there were no that it felt like pop was in a place where it could really be pushed forward, which is funny because that's where you have like the Charlies and like Sophie and all of these like inventors of where pop is now kind of like kind of first having their seeds be.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
I've admired you from afar in the same room, for sure. Likewise.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
So it's just exciting to me to see pop be in a place where people are like really appreciating world building. And I think like the chapels and the Sabrina's and the Charlie's and all of the girls that are out there right now are like really.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
opening up a landscape to show that like people want to see you take a risk like people want to see you push them and that's something I've always known about my audience from like the jump when I started making my the music I really wanted to and it's it just makes me excited to keep going and I hope everyone sees this as an opportunity to like do more yeah do more because people want it
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Yeah, which is also like nice because I think there was a period where like TikTok started popping off and TikTok is huge for music still and I don't get it.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
yeah I don't I drive but I like just watch and learn but it's nice to see people I feel like time and time again no matter who tells me it's not true like people appreciate an album even people will say time and time again music videos don't have a return on investment like yes they do yeah
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
like they especially on social media yes all what people pass around time and time again and I see it with like Gaga music videos from 10 years ago or Lana music videos from 10 years ago like people pass around something that shows you who they are yeah totally and identify with that and like that's that's what raised me are those girls so it's really exciting to
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
I don't know, be in a place where I can be like, see, I told you we needed to do that and be right now. Yeah. I mean, the trust like music videos as an independent artist, like it's not easy to put something like that out. Yeah, because I bet it's expensive. And I look at my bank account and that dictates what I can do. And it's just really like exciting to see people
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Well, how have you been, queen? How's life? I think good. I've been just like head down. So it's actually nice to like sit and chat and talk. And key. Yeah, and key.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
They're always right. Lesbians love Gaga. They do. Every single one of them that I know. We all like, there's, yeah, there's like societal counterpoints that you can be like, okay, yes, that makes sense. Another diva that they picked and everyone shat on when she was first out. And when you look back at like old, like early day Gaga videos, even just like the random shit she was doing. Yeah.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Because she was doing a lot of crazy random shit. Yeah. The references and the things she was putting in front of like such a large mass scale of people are shocking. Yeah.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
It's sick. It's sick to know that, like, a 22-year-old or 24-year-old, however she was when she did, like, paparazzi and bad romance and all those, like, it's so cool to know that, like, guys, people have been ready for this for years. I mean, Madonna, like, it goes so far back for what people are down for. But, yeah, Gaga is a huge influence for me, Madonna.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Gwen, honestly, like, early, like, Gwen Stefani. Love. Orange County Girl.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
I started DJing, like, I think it was at the end of, like, probably this time, 2017, which was seven years ago, six years ago.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
And I started at my ex's house. Naturally. As you do. Surrounded by a bunch of lesbians. And basically someone just had a controller and would, like, kind of play at house parties and just, like, nights where we would all hang out.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
just wanted to try it and thought it was cool and thought it was like could be something really fun and I started just doing that and then I started playing like little LA raves and like parties around town like there used to be this night called Candy Pop at this place called The Satellite that's no longer existing but I would just like I mean that's kind of how you start DJing is you're literally like I'm a DJ now and
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
And I would like to play. Right. And see who believes you.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
And I remember like my first few gigs, like I was clueless because you get up there and now you're not on a tiny controller. You're on like CDJs, which are like big and a lot more buttons. And so I really just learned through like playing gigs over the last six years and practicing some more and practicing.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
And it's been like a thing that I think not a lot of people have known about, but that's been a big part of my life and love. I love it. I love your sets. I mean, I love to play. Boiler Room was something I was really surprised to get an offer for at that point because that's like, I've been such a huge fan of electronic music for so long.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Like, I remember being 12 and hearing like Skrillex's Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites that my little brother put me onto and being like, this is crazy. Like it...
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
music can sound like this what and so it's been something that i've i've loved for so long and um it was just so cool to get the offer to do it i was so scared to do it um but it it went it went off and how was the energy in there while you're doing it crazy it was literally like 6 p.m
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
Yes. Damn. So I was nervous because I was like, I'm in Washington, D.C. It's 6 p.m. Gay people don't leave their house before 6 p.m. Who's going to be in this crowd? I'm scared. I was scared. I was scared for sure. And I went up there and like 15 minutes in my set, someone offered me poppers next to me. And I was like, girl, it's literally 615. You saw and you said, I'm home.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
I was so excited that someone asked me, but I was like, no. You said honored, but no, thank you. No, thank you. I don't like poppers, personally. They give me a headache. Right. I don't know if you've ever done poppers. I've actually never done poppers, no. Okay, well, I've brought some. Well, that brings us to our sponsor for today.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
the gay person who offers you poppers but it was great like it was crazy i mean the barricades like broke in the middle of the set so you see like security behind me trying to like get everyone off the stage the cdj's also were literally like moving like this throughout the whole set because it was just so lit it was crazy it was people were just like ready to go i got this bitch
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
jumping damn but they were like they were ready from the beginning and um and uh i just get excited because i like i spend usually the week before i do a set literally just like deep on soundcloud looking for the like most unhinged remixes i can find like i opened the set with this hannah montana um nobody's perfect like 150 hard techno remix naturally Exactly.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
You can never have too many. Right. I think that's been like the year, it's been the year of country gay pop, and I'm determined to bring it into the following year.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
YEAR OF GAY Ft. Rebecca Black | Episode 147
And I heard it and immediately was like, this is what I will play first. And it's just cool to see. I open with that knowing like y'all are either going to get this or you're not. Yeah.