Rebecca Traister

I'm just like listing the things that in my head are like the happening. And I think all these things apply to what I'm sorting.

Oh, and these questions of something Brittany and I were talking about just before we started recording is I said, I have this weird feeling that we just have to sit through this, which doesn't mean passivity and it doesn't mean not having thoughts or conversations like these and a million others and doing the work and writing and all that stuff. But there's this weird feeling of like,

Oh, and these questions of something Brittany and I were talking about just before we started recording is I said, I have this weird feeling that we just have to sit through this, which doesn't mean passivity and it doesn't mean not having thoughts or conversations like these and a million others and doing the work and writing and all that stuff. But there's this weird feeling of like,

Oh, and these questions of something Brittany and I were talking about just before we started recording is I said, I have this weird feeling that we just have to sit through this, which doesn't mean passivity and it doesn't mean not having thoughts or conversations like these and a million others and doing the work and writing and all that stuff. But there's this weird feeling of like,

this is like a display happening or like a temper tantrum, like a toddler, you know, like there's no... There's no succeeding in calming it right now, so you just have to sit through it, and you can choose how closely to pay attention to it or not, but it's gonna go on and there's nothing you can do. That tantrum-y thing.

this is like a display happening or like a temper tantrum, like a toddler, you know, like there's no... There's no succeeding in calming it right now, so you just have to sit through it, and you can choose how closely to pay attention to it or not, but it's gonna go on and there's nothing you can do. That tantrum-y thing.

this is like a display happening or like a temper tantrum, like a toddler, you know, like there's no... There's no succeeding in calming it right now, so you just have to sit through it, and you can choose how closely to pay attention to it or not, but it's gonna go on and there's nothing you can do. That tantrum-y thing.

All these things, they're just knots in my brain that I'm picking apart and trying to get into some kind of shape that makes sense, and sometimes it's in my writing. My bosses at New York Magazine gave me an assignment beginning of the year to go down and cover the Hegsath confirmation, which I think was pretty brutal for me emotionally. I had a weird experience of going down.

All these things, they're just knots in my brain that I'm picking apart and trying to get into some kind of shape that makes sense, and sometimes it's in my writing. My bosses at New York Magazine gave me an assignment beginning of the year to go down and cover the Hegsath confirmation, which I think was pretty brutal for me emotionally. I had a weird experience of going down.

All these things, they're just knots in my brain that I'm picking apart and trying to get into some kind of shape that makes sense, and sometimes it's in my writing. My bosses at New York Magazine gave me an assignment beginning of the year to go down and cover the Hegsath confirmation, which I think was pretty brutal for me emotionally. I had a weird experience of going down.

Brittany, you talked about crying. And as a white woman, I have a different relationship to tears. Mine can be used to draw a lot of response. But I will tell you that in a professional context, they're pretty embarrassing. A weird thing happened the first week I went down to sort of talk to senators about how they were going to game out this Hegsath confirmation. I mean,

Brittany, you talked about crying. And as a white woman, I have a different relationship to tears. Mine can be used to draw a lot of response. But I will tell you that in a professional context, they're pretty embarrassing. A weird thing happened the first week I went down to sort of talk to senators about how they were going to game out this Hegsath confirmation. I mean,

Brittany, you talked about crying. And as a white woman, I have a different relationship to tears. Mine can be used to draw a lot of response. But I will tell you that in a professional context, they're pretty embarrassing. A weird thing happened the first week I went down to sort of talk to senators about how they were going to game out this Hegsath confirmation. I mean,

You know, which is that I started I had just like water coming out of my eyes. It wasn't crying. I can't describe it. I thought it was the cold. It's the winter. I was on a plane. It was dry. But like I was going into the Senate offices and like sort of completely just being like, hi, hi, sorry, I have allergies or something. I don't know what was happening, but like I was in a steady state of.

You know, which is that I started I had just like water coming out of my eyes. It wasn't crying. I can't describe it. I thought it was the cold. It's the winter. I was on a plane. It was dry. But like I was going into the Senate offices and like sort of completely just being like, hi, hi, sorry, I have allergies or something. I don't know what was happening, but like I was in a steady state of.

You know, which is that I started I had just like water coming out of my eyes. It wasn't crying. I can't describe it. I thought it was the cold. It's the winter. I was on a plane. It was dry. But like I was going into the Senate offices and like sort of completely just being like, hi, hi, sorry, I have allergies or something. I don't know what was happening, but like I was in a steady state of.

having wet eyes and tears rolling down my cheeks, but I was not emotionally crying. And then when I came back, so I went that first week, I wrote a story, sort of anticipatory, what are the Democrats going to do, like a Beltway story.

having wet eyes and tears rolling down my cheeks, but I was not emotionally crying. And then when I came back, so I went that first week, I wrote a story, sort of anticipatory, what are the Democrats going to do, like a Beltway story.

having wet eyes and tears rolling down my cheeks, but I was not emotionally crying. And then when I came back, so I went that first week, I wrote a story, sort of anticipatory, what are the Democrats going to do, like a Beltway story.

And then I went back and I had to sit through the confirmation hearing with Pete Hegseth, where a lot of this stuff about masculinity, strength, weakness, top down, bottom up, these things that we're talking about began to rear their heads.