Reed Hastings
👤 PersonAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
Well, you'd have to ask Greg and Ted about that.
They will be the ones trying to figure out, does that make sense in our continued growth and stimulating entertainment or not?
Sure.
You know, back in...
2018, 2019, let's see, we probably did our first Chappelle special in like 2015 or 14.
So we had a great relationship with Dave and had done a number of his standups and they were super popular, some of our most popular standup shows.
On the same hand, we were trying to be very inclusive and to have many people be able to thrive at Netflix's employees, including our transgender employees.
And so the tension became we said to our trans employees and their allies, hey, we're very trans friendly.
If you're fantastic at your job, you know, again, it's great.
and were an inclusive place of work.
And then some of them felt that in doing the Dave Chappelle show, which had some trans jokes, which I don't believe that Dave is anti-trans, but he definitely takes on some of the issues, that they were being undercut as employees when we were creating a hostile work environment, which got them to protest internally.
So that was the storm in maybe 2019.
And it was good for us to realize that we were not resolving this conflict between customer entertainment and employee values.
So, for example, in many of our shows, people have guns and blow people up and shoot people, and yet we don't want a workplace that's filled like that.
And so we realized entertainment is an escape where various things get said and done that are not endorsing that as workplace behaviors.
But we hadn't really clarified that.
And so we sat down and we did an amendment to the culture memo.
And tried to really explain that entertainment is not always going to be stuff that you love or that you emulate or is admirable.
There's lots of stuff in entertainment that's not admirable.
And if you don't want to be in the entertainment business, that's fine.