Regina Barber

Okay, but let's talk about birds then. What made them so well-equipped for the modern world in a way that, like, these other dinosaurs, they were not equipped? How did these dinosaurs that were basically birds survive?

Okay. So birds are dinosaurs and we know that these dinosaurs had feathers, but how do we know that they actually like flew? Like, did they fly?

Okay. So birds are dinosaurs and we know that these dinosaurs had feathers, but how do we know that they actually like flew? Like, did they fly?

Okay. So birds are dinosaurs and we know that these dinosaurs had feathers, but how do we know that they actually like flew? Like, did they fly?

Oh, because you need lift.

Oh, because you need lift.

Oh, because you need lift.

Yeah, physics.

Yeah, physics.

Yeah, physics.

OK, OK, let's get let's get back to flight. Earlier, you said like in the era when most of those dinosaurs died out, one group of these like small, these avian dinosaurs survived the Cretaceous mass extinction and they became the birds we see today. Yeah. But was there like one dino ancestor that evolved to fly? And then like that's why we're seeing all these flying dinosaurs.

OK, OK, let's get let's get back to flight. Earlier, you said like in the era when most of those dinosaurs died out, one group of these like small, these avian dinosaurs survived the Cretaceous mass extinction and they became the birds we see today. Yeah. But was there like one dino ancestor that evolved to fly? And then like that's why we're seeing all these flying dinosaurs.

OK, OK, let's get let's get back to flight. Earlier, you said like in the era when most of those dinosaurs died out, one group of these like small, these avian dinosaurs survived the Cretaceous mass extinction and they became the birds we see today. Yeah. But was there like one dino ancestor that evolved to fly? And then like that's why we're seeing all these flying dinosaurs.

Or could the evolution of flight have happened in like different animals at different times, like independently?

Or could the evolution of flight have happened in like different animals at different times, like independently?

Or could the evolution of flight have happened in like different animals at different times, like independently?

Jingmei, thank you so much for coming on our show. I think I love dinosaurs more than I did before, and it's all because of you. Thank you so much. Awesome. Well, my job here is done then. This episode was produced by Hannah Chin. It was edited by showrunner Rebecca Ramirez. The engineer was Jimmy Keeley.

Jingmei, thank you so much for coming on our show. I think I love dinosaurs more than I did before, and it's all because of you. Thank you so much. Awesome. Well, my job here is done then. This episode was produced by Hannah Chin. It was edited by showrunner Rebecca Ramirez. The engineer was Jimmy Keeley.

Jingmei, thank you so much for coming on our show. I think I love dinosaurs more than I did before, and it's all because of you. Thank you so much. Awesome. Well, my job here is done then. This episode was produced by Hannah Chin. It was edited by showrunner Rebecca Ramirez. The engineer was Jimmy Keeley.

Beth Donovan is our senior director, and Colin Campbell is our senior vice president of podcasting strategy. I'm Regina Barber. Thank you for listening to Shortwave from NPR.