Regina Barber

Right, like all of the federal spending cuts that have been like changing the landscape for people who like do the science that we discuss on Shortwave day in and day out.

Right, like all of the federal spending cuts that have been like changing the landscape for people who like do the science that we discuss on Shortwave day in and day out.

Right, like all of the federal spending cuts that have been like changing the landscape for people who like do the science that we discuss on Shortwave day in and day out.

Yeah, I remember reading like 75% of respondents to this Nature poll back in March have considered leaving the United States.

Yeah, I remember reading like 75% of respondents to this Nature poll back in March have considered leaving the United States.

Yeah, I remember reading like 75% of respondents to this Nature poll back in March have considered leaving the United States.

I actually know some researchers who are applying abroad.

I actually know some researchers who are applying abroad.

I actually know some researchers who are applying abroad.

That is so much.

That is so much.

That is so much.

So today on the show, the scientific brain drain. Darian and Adrian get personal with a Hollywood entomologist reconsidering the United States and a Canadian CEO who's seen an opportunity to attract world-leading health scientists over the border. You're listening to Shortwave, the science podcast from NPR.

So today on the show, the scientific brain drain. Darian and Adrian get personal with a Hollywood entomologist reconsidering the United States and a Canadian CEO who's seen an opportunity to attract world-leading health scientists over the border. You're listening to Shortwave, the science podcast from NPR.

So today on the show, the scientific brain drain. Darian and Adrian get personal with a Hollywood entomologist reconsidering the United States and a Canadian CEO who's seen an opportunity to attract world-leading health scientists over the border. You're listening to Shortwave, the science podcast from NPR.

That was Darian Woods with The Indicator podcast, along with co-host Adrian Ma. Darian, thank you so much for bringing your reporting to Shortwave listeners. You're welcome. This episode was originally produced for The Indicator by Julia Ritchie, with engineering by Maggie Luthar and Sina Lafredo. It was fact-checked by Sierra Juarez. Kate Concanon edits The Indicator.

That was Darian Woods with The Indicator podcast, along with co-host Adrian Ma. Darian, thank you so much for bringing your reporting to Shortwave listeners. You're welcome. This episode was originally produced for The Indicator by Julia Ritchie, with engineering by Maggie Luthar and Sina Lafredo. It was fact-checked by Sierra Juarez. Kate Concanon edits The Indicator.

That was Darian Woods with The Indicator podcast, along with co-host Adrian Ma. Darian, thank you so much for bringing your reporting to Shortwave listeners. You're welcome. This episode was originally produced for The Indicator by Julia Ritchie, with engineering by Maggie Luthar and Sina Lafredo. It was fact-checked by Sierra Juarez. Kate Concanon edits The Indicator.

It was produced for Shortwave by Burley McCoy and edited by showrunner Rebecca Ramirez. I'm Regina Barber. Thank you for listening to this special collab episode of Shortwave from NPR.

It was produced for Shortwave by Burley McCoy and edited by showrunner Rebecca Ramirez. I'm Regina Barber. Thank you for listening to this special collab episode of Shortwave from NPR.