Regina Barber

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Okay, Rachel, so earlier we talked about how the thick-billed parrots were really struggling. Like, in the 1990s, scientists think the population could have been at its lowest. And that's the same time period when these researchers at the San Diego Zoo Wildlife Alliance and OVIS started doing a census of these birds every couple years to keep track of how they were doing.

Okay, Rachel, so earlier we talked about how the thick-billed parrots were really struggling. Like, in the 1990s, scientists think the population could have been at its lowest. And that's the same time period when these researchers at the San Diego Zoo Wildlife Alliance and OVIS started doing a census of these birds every couple years to keep track of how they were doing.

Okay, Rachel, so earlier we talked about how the thick-billed parrots were really struggling. Like, in the 1990s, scientists think the population could have been at its lowest. And that's the same time period when these researchers at the San Diego Zoo Wildlife Alliance and OVIS started doing a census of these birds every couple years to keep track of how they were doing.

And at the same time they're keeping an eye on the parrot population, these researchers are also working to help the people who make a living from the forest. Remember, logging is historically the largest threat to these parrots.

And at the same time they're keeping an eye on the parrot population, these researchers are also working to help the people who make a living from the forest. Remember, logging is historically the largest threat to these parrots.

And at the same time they're keeping an eye on the parrot population, these researchers are also working to help the people who make a living from the forest. Remember, logging is historically the largest threat to these parrots.

Yeah, and this is the first facet of their approach, identifying and protecting forests in partnership with both the government and the local community. And this work has come a long way. Ernesto says that at the beginning, decades ago, he approached the issue pretty differently from locals.