Regina Barber

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No. No, we didn't.

No. No, we didn't.

No. No, we didn't.

I mean, I do have to say, like, I do get happy when I find discounts, right? Like, since the three of us went to the mall, I have bought things online for Christmas. And I know now why that, like, I get this dopamine hit. But now you know the deal with deals. Thank you so much, Alina, for bringing us the story and for taking me shopping. You're welcome.

I mean, I do have to say, like, I do get happy when I find discounts, right? Like, since the three of us went to the mall, I have bought things online for Christmas. And I know now why that, like, I get this dopamine hit. But now you know the deal with deals. Thank you so much, Alina, for bringing us the story and for taking me shopping. You're welcome.

I mean, I do have to say, like, I do get happy when I find discounts, right? Like, since the three of us went to the mall, I have bought things online for Christmas. And I know now why that, like, I get this dopamine hit. But now you know the deal with deals. Thank you so much, Alina, for bringing us the story and for taking me shopping. You're welcome.

This episode was produced by Rachel Carlson, edited by showrunner Rebecca Ramirez and Alina Check the Facts. Maggie Luthar was our audio engineer. Special thanks to John Hamilton and Emily Kopp. I'm Regina Barber. Thanks for listening to Shorewave from NPR.

This episode was produced by Rachel Carlson, edited by showrunner Rebecca Ramirez and Alina Check the Facts. Maggie Luthar was our audio engineer. Special thanks to John Hamilton and Emily Kopp. I'm Regina Barber. Thanks for listening to Shorewave from NPR.

This episode was produced by Rachel Carlson, edited by showrunner Rebecca Ramirez and Alina Check the Facts. Maggie Luthar was our audio engineer. Special thanks to John Hamilton and Emily Kopp. I'm Regina Barber. Thanks for listening to Shorewave from NPR.

Malls are way nicer than they used to be. Even the one I used to work at is way nicer than it was when I worked there. Like, the floors are clean, you know?

Malls are way nicer than they used to be. Even the one I used to work at is way nicer than it was when I worked there. Like, the floors are clean, you know?

Malls are way nicer than they used to be. Even the one I used to work at is way nicer than it was when I worked there. Like, the floors are clean, you know?

You're listening to Shortwave from NPR. Hey, Shortwavers. The holidays are approaching, and that often means lots of travel. across the country or internationally, which often just like knocks me out. But that exhaustion can happen even if you're not traveling.

You're listening to Shortwave from NPR. Hey, Shortwavers. The holidays are approaching, and that often means lots of travel. across the country or internationally, which often just like knocks me out. But that exhaustion can happen even if you're not traveling.

You're listening to Shortwave from NPR. Hey, Shortwavers. The holidays are approaching, and that often means lots of travel. across the country or internationally, which often just like knocks me out. But that exhaustion can happen even if you're not traveling.

That's Jade Wu, a behavioral sleep medicine psychologist and the author of the book Hello Sleep. And I called her up because I, and I suspect many of you short wavers, are about to put our bodies through that exhaustion again. In a few weeks, my partner and I are going to Australia and New Zealand, which has basically the opposite day and night cycle from here in D.C.

That's Jade Wu, a behavioral sleep medicine psychologist and the author of the book Hello Sleep. And I called her up because I, and I suspect many of you short wavers, are about to put our bodies through that exhaustion again. In a few weeks, my partner and I are going to Australia and New Zealand, which has basically the opposite day and night cycle from here in D.C.