Regina Barber

That was Darian Woods with The Indicator podcast, along with co-host Adrian Ma. Darian, thank you so much for bringing your reporting to Shortwave listeners. You're welcome. This episode was originally produced for The Indicator by Julia Ritchie, with engineering by Maggie Luthar and Sina Lafredo. It was fact-checked by Sierra Juarez. Kate Concanon edits The Indicator.

It was produced for Shortwave by Burley McCoy and edited by showrunner Rebecca Ramirez. I'm Regina Barber. Thank you for listening to this special collab episode of Shortwave from NPR.

It was produced for Shortwave by Burley McCoy and edited by showrunner Rebecca Ramirez. I'm Regina Barber. Thank you for listening to this special collab episode of Shortwave from NPR.

It was produced for Shortwave by Burley McCoy and edited by showrunner Rebecca Ramirez. I'm Regina Barber. Thank you for listening to this special collab episode of Shortwave from NPR.

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Hey, short wavers. Regina Barber here with my co-host, Emily Kwong, with the second half of a miniseries she reported on the environmental footprint of AI.

Hey, short wavers. Regina Barber here with my co-host, Emily Kwong, with the second half of a miniseries she reported on the environmental footprint of AI.

Hey, short wavers. Regina Barber here with my co-host, Emily Kwong, with the second half of a miniseries she reported on the environmental footprint of AI.

Yeah, you were saying that AI innovation was causing this surge in energy and water use to cool data centers. And the construction of those data centers was only going to increase.

Yeah, you were saying that AI innovation was causing this surge in energy and water use to cool data centers. And the construction of those data centers was only going to increase.

Yeah, you were saying that AI innovation was causing this surge in energy and water use to cool data centers. And the construction of those data centers was only going to increase.

It's like the amount of energy that Canada consumed two years ago. Okay, so U.S. data centers alone could someday use a Canada-sized amount of energy. They could. Wow.