Regina Barber

Literally. Okay. OK, so Hamana is just like one of these data centers like out of thousands, right?

Kind of disruptor in this space is DeepSeek. Right. That's the chatbot out of a company in China, and it is claiming to use less energy.

Kind of disruptor in this space is DeepSeek. Right. That's the chatbot out of a company in China, and it is claiming to use less energy.

Kind of disruptor in this space is DeepSeek. Right. That's the chatbot out of a company in China, and it is claiming to use less energy.

So, like, are tech companies experimenting with this?

So, like, are tech companies experimenting with this?

So, like, are tech companies experimenting with this?

So like Energy Star was created to rank the energy efficiencies of appliances. You see that little star on a lot of those appliances.

So like Energy Star was created to rank the energy efficiencies of appliances. You see that little star on a lot of those appliances.

So like Energy Star was created to rank the energy efficiencies of appliances. You see that little star on a lot of those appliances.

I mean, yeah, I mean, I certainly had no idea about all of this while I was growing up. All this was happening in the background. But you can't, like, disinvent the Internet, right? Nor should we. Where would we get our cat videos?

I mean, yeah, I mean, I certainly had no idea about all of this while I was growing up. All this was happening in the background. But you can't, like, disinvent the Internet, right? Nor should we. Where would we get our cat videos?

I mean, yeah, I mean, I certainly had no idea about all of this while I was growing up. All this was happening in the background. But you can't, like, disinvent the Internet, right? Nor should we. Where would we get our cat videos?

Em, thank you so much for bringing us this reporting. Thanks, Gina. If you liked this episode, you can check out part one of our series on AI and the environment. It's already out. This episode was produced by Hannah Chin, edited by showrunner Rebecca Ramirez, and fact-checked by Tyler Jones. Robert Rodriguez was the audio engineer.

Em, thank you so much for bringing us this reporting. Thanks, Gina. If you liked this episode, you can check out part one of our series on AI and the environment. It's already out. This episode was produced by Hannah Chin, edited by showrunner Rebecca Ramirez, and fact-checked by Tyler Jones. Robert Rodriguez was the audio engineer.

Em, thank you so much for bringing us this reporting. Thanks, Gina. If you liked this episode, you can check out part one of our series on AI and the environment. It's already out. This episode was produced by Hannah Chin, edited by showrunner Rebecca Ramirez, and fact-checked by Tyler Jones. Robert Rodriguez was the audio engineer.

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Special thanks to Brent Bachman, Johannes Durge, and our incredible Standards team. And special thanks to TED Conferences, LLC.

Special thanks to Brent Bachman, Johannes Durge, and our incredible Standards team. And special thanks to TED Conferences, LLC.

I'm Emily Kwong. And I'm Regina Barber. Thanks for listening to Shortwave, the science podcast from NPR.