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Reid Hoffman

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DeepSeek Fallout, Meta Settles with Trump, and Guest Host Reid Hoffman

And of course, by the way, AI can be here. I invest in startups that train small models and so forth. But the large models still bring certain critical elements to the table in terms of ability to change small models, ability to get to performance. Like if you say, well, hey, moving from 10,000 GPUs to 100,000 GPUs, we only get a 20% better coder, medical assistant, legal assistant, tutor.

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DeepSeek Fallout, Meta Settles with Trump, and Guest Host Reid Hoffman

And of course, by the way, AI can be here. I invest in startups that train small models and so forth. But the large models still bring certain critical elements to the table in terms of ability to change small models, ability to get to performance. Like if you say, well, hey, moving from 10,000 GPUs to 100,000 GPUs, we only get a 20% better coder, medical assistant, legal assistant, tutor.

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DeepSeek Fallout, Meta Settles with Trump, and Guest Host Reid Hoffman

And of course, by the way, AI can be here. I invest in startups that train small models and so forth. But the large models still bring certain critical elements to the table in terms of ability to change small models, ability to get to performance. Like if you say, well, hey, moving from 10,000 GPUs to 100,000 GPUs, we only get a 20% better coder, medical assistant, legal assistant, tutor.

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DeepSeek Fallout, Meta Settles with Trump, and Guest Host Reid Hoffman

Like, well, in a wide variety of those areas, that really matters. That increase in cost when you amortize it across people accessing it across the entire unit, the billions of people that could use it, that's actually completely worth it and makes total economic sense.

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DeepSeek Fallout, Meta Settles with Trump, and Guest Host Reid Hoffman

Like, well, in a wide variety of those areas, that really matters. That increase in cost when you amortize it across people accessing it across the entire unit, the billions of people that could use it, that's actually completely worth it and makes total economic sense.

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DeepSeek Fallout, Meta Settles with Trump, and Guest Host Reid Hoffman

Like, well, in a wide variety of those areas, that really matters. That increase in cost when you amortize it across people accessing it across the entire unit, the billions of people that could use it, that's actually completely worth it and makes total economic sense.

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DeepSeek Fallout, Meta Settles with Trump, and Guest Host Reid Hoffman

Yeah. By the way, I think that all of these questions are in the classic short-termism versus long-termism. Because if you're saying, hey, I'm building this CapEx thing of $50 to $80 billion, A, I can train much better intelligence, but B, I'm also, these are kind of data centers in terms of serving intelligence through various apps, you know, to the world.

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DeepSeek Fallout, Meta Settles with Trump, and Guest Host Reid Hoffman

Yeah. By the way, I think that all of these questions are in the classic short-termism versus long-termism. Because if you're saying, hey, I'm building this CapEx thing of $50 to $80 billion, A, I can train much better intelligence, but B, I'm also, these are kind of data centers in terms of serving intelligence through various apps, you know, to the world.

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DeepSeek Fallout, Meta Settles with Trump, and Guest Host Reid Hoffman

Yeah. By the way, I think that all of these questions are in the classic short-termism versus long-termism. Because if you're saying, hey, I'm building this CapEx thing of $50 to $80 billion, A, I can train much better intelligence, but B, I'm also, these are kind of data centers in terms of serving intelligence through various apps, you know, to the world.

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DeepSeek Fallout, Meta Settles with Trump, and Guest Host Reid Hoffman

You know, you could say, well, the payoff is longer than I'd like as a public market. I'd like the payoff to be three years and maybe it'll be five years or seven years. That's the range you're talking about. I find that the general discussion on the X tens of billions of dollars to be short-sighted.

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DeepSeek Fallout, Meta Settles with Trump, and Guest Host Reid Hoffman

You know, you could say, well, the payoff is longer than I'd like as a public market. I'd like the payoff to be three years and maybe it'll be five years or seven years. That's the range you're talking about. I find that the general discussion on the X tens of billions of dollars to be short-sighted.

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DeepSeek Fallout, Meta Settles with Trump, and Guest Host Reid Hoffman

You know, you could say, well, the payoff is longer than I'd like as a public market. I'd like the payoff to be three years and maybe it'll be five years or seven years. That's the range you're talking about. I find that the general discussion on the X tens of billions of dollars to be short-sighted.

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DeepSeek Fallout, Meta Settles with Trump, and Guest Host Reid Hoffman

Generally, me as a private citizen, me as a venture investor, obviously making zero comment as a Microsoft board member. But the and so I think that it's an extremely important area to be investing in. And I'm actually glad that that we as a industry are doing this.

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DeepSeek Fallout, Meta Settles with Trump, and Guest Host Reid Hoffman

Generally, me as a private citizen, me as a venture investor, obviously making zero comment as a Microsoft board member. But the and so I think that it's an extremely important area to be investing in. And I'm actually glad that that we as a industry are doing this.

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DeepSeek Fallout, Meta Settles with Trump, and Guest Host Reid Hoffman

Generally, me as a private citizen, me as a venture investor, obviously making zero comment as a Microsoft board member. But the and so I think that it's an extremely important area to be investing in. And I'm actually glad that that we as a industry are doing this.

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DeepSeek Fallout, Meta Settles with Trump, and Guest Host Reid Hoffman

I mean, one of the things that I've kind of thought about over December was that I want artificial intelligence not just to be amplification intelligence. I want it to be American intelligence.

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DeepSeek Fallout, Meta Settles with Trump, and Guest Host Reid Hoffman

I mean, one of the things that I've kind of thought about over December was that I want artificial intelligence not just to be amplification intelligence. I want it to be American intelligence.

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DeepSeek Fallout, Meta Settles with Trump, and Guest Host Reid Hoffman

I mean, one of the things that I've kind of thought about over December was that I want artificial intelligence not just to be amplification intelligence. I want it to be American intelligence.

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DeepSeek Fallout, Meta Settles with Trump, and Guest Host Reid Hoffman

Go ahead. Yeah. I think, by the way, part of the criticism I used to get last year and the year before when I was saying, hey, look, we are game on with China, was like, oh, you're just trying to get the excuse that we shouldn't be interfering with you and slowing you down and so forth. It's like, no, no, I see the competition coming.

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DeepSeek Fallout, Meta Settles with Trump, and Guest Host Reid Hoffman

Go ahead. Yeah. I think, by the way, part of the criticism I used to get last year and the year before when I was saying, hey, look, we are game on with China, was like, oh, you're just trying to get the excuse that we shouldn't be interfering with you and slowing you down and so forth. It's like, no, no, I see the competition coming.