Renee
Appearances
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Stepdad Had an Inappropriate Photo of Me on His Phone
Yeah, I don't know if she knew or not. I pray to God she had no idea, but I'm also not that naive.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Stepdad Had an Inappropriate Photo of Me on His Phone
in that because I don't have a great relationship with my dad and my stepdad has been in my life for, you know, 10 plus years. And he's really been an answer to prayer for me in so many ways. So I'm just absolutely gutted and shattered. And I, I don't know, I don't know what a relationship with him would look like moving forward. Um, I don't know if I want that. I don't know. I just,
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Stepdad Had an Inappropriate Photo of Me on His Phone
I feel very heartbroken, very betrayed, very trapped and very, very stuck. So I'd love any advice that you have.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Stepdad Had an Inappropriate Photo of Me on His Phone
It was about a year old, so I was very much an adult.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Stepdad Had an Inappropriate Photo of Me on His Phone
he was picking me up from the airport. I'm originally from California and my flight got in very, very late. It was delayed. And so he picked me up from the airport and I heard a notification go off on his phone. And I asked him, I'm like, who's messaging you at like one in the morning? What's going on? And so he told me he's got friends that he used to work with that are contracting a
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Stepdad Had an Inappropriate Photo of Me on His Phone
over in the Middle East and they sent him motorcycle videos. Okay, no big deal. So we sat down for breakfast, dinner, whatever meal that was at one in the morning. And I took his phone, and his password is my birthday. And so I looked at the message, and it was, in fact, just a motorcycle video. But he had another message that was kind of suspicious, and I asked him about it.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Stepdad Had an Inappropriate Photo of Me on His Phone
And he just had some excuse for, oh, yeah, that's a girl that I knew from high school or whatever. And then I, I don't know why I did this, but I looked at his text messages and one of the first messages that he had was a picture that he had sent himself. And so I opened that and that's where I found the picture.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Stepdad Had an Inappropriate Photo of Me on His Phone
I did have a chance to talk to him about it the next day because right then I was absolutely shocked. I didn't see anything about it. He saw you open the picture? No, he saw me open the messages, but he didn't see me open the text message thread the picture. Okay. I just exit out of everything, put the phone down, flip it back over to him. And we ate breakfast in almost silence.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Stepdad Had an Inappropriate Photo of Me on His Phone
So, um, I tried to not be overly emotional about it. Why? I don't, I don't know. Um,
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Stepdad Had an Inappropriate Photo of Me on His Phone
Yeah, and so I sat down with him, and I said, hey, I found something inappropriate on your phone that's concerning. And he was like, yeah, what did you see? And so I told him, well, I saw the picture that you sent to yourself. And he said, oh, yeah, well... Yeah. Yeah. You know, it was it's an app and I don't know, just playing around. I don't know.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Stepdad Had an Inappropriate Photo of Me on His Phone
And just, you know, kind of wishy washy waffling back and forth of, you know, there's not an excuse for that. And so I asked him, I said, do you see me as a stepdaughter? Because that's not, that's not what a step, like that's not a fatherly, you know, that's not something that a father figure would do. And he said, yeah, I know you're absolutely right.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Stepdad Had an Inappropriate Photo of Me on His Phone
That's not something that a father figure would do. I do see you as a stepdad, but he couldn't look at me. And so I don't believe him. Like this does shatter my image of who he is in my life. But I just told him like, hey, just delete the picture, delete the app. Like I don't, I don't want, I'm not going to make a massive deal about this. I'm not going to tell my mom.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Stepdad Had an Inappropriate Photo of Me on His Phone
I found a picture of myself on my stepdad's phone. He had put a picture that I had posted on Facebook through an app that made me look completely naked. I'm just absolutely gutted. Ugh.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Stepdad Had an Inappropriate Photo of Me on His Phone
I'm so conflicted because he... part of me, like I don't want to disqualify all the good that he's done in my life. But also like when I look back at our entire relationship, I was holding back. Like I think I knew something was off for a while. I didn't want to hug him. I didn't want to like tell him I love you. Um, he, again, he's been like a really good influence, but now I just feel dirty.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Stepdad Had an Inappropriate Photo of Me on His Phone
Hi, nothing much. How are you?
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Stepdad Had an Inappropriate Photo of Me on His Phone
Yeah. Yeah, I just feel like if I actually show emotion, it'll be like completely the end of a relationship with him at all.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Stepdad Had an Inappropriate Photo of Me on His Phone
Yeah, nothing much. Just enjoying the sunshine out here in Raleigh.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Stepdad Had an Inappropriate Photo of Me on His Phone
Yeah, I had an unfortunate situation where I... Found a picture of myself on my stepdad's phone and he had put a picture that I had posted on Facebook through an app that made me and the friend that was in the picture as well look like we were completely naked. It's my world kind of shattered.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Stepdad Had an Inappropriate Photo of Me on His Phone
Yeah, that's true.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Stepdad Had an Inappropriate Photo of Me on His Phone
Yeah, no, I think you're absolutely correct. And I'm just really frustrated at myself for not like seeing what you're saying sooner of like, you're right. I have been chained to a predator and have made the most of the situation. But like, why did I not know?
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Stepdad Had an Inappropriate Photo of Me on His Phone
Like I knew, you know, as you said, like my God told me, I just didn't, I don't know if I didn't care or didn't want, like, I'm just, I'm angry with myself. I'm frustrated.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Stepdad Had an Inappropriate Photo of Me on His Phone
Um, he's been in my life as a stepdad since 20, but he's been in my life since I was like six or seven. Okay.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Stepdad Had an Inappropriate Photo of Me on His Phone
There was one time I remember I, um, I was rooming with, He was living with my mom and I was staying with his step, his daughter, my stepsister at his house. But he wasn't living there. And there was one night that he did come get into bed with me. Nothing happened, but he just slept there.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Stepdad Had an Inappropriate Photo of Me on His Phone
Yeah. I'm just, I'm really scared about telling my mom because, you know, ever since I was, ever since they got together, um, she's been telling me like, you don't deserve a man as good as him in your life. And she's always felt like she has to compete with me for him. And. But you know what? You know what? She was crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but now I'm seeing that like, wow, she saw. I mean, yeah.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband’s Mistress Got Pregnant After I Had Our Baby
Over the duration of my pregnancy, he turned into someone I didn't recognize. He was very abusive and began doing drugs and drinking heavily with this girl. Our son was born in February of 2023, and he was not super present. So I was on maternity leave, and I decided to go visit my family over here in Seattle and get some support from them. And at that time, he moved her into our family home.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband’s Mistress Got Pregnant After I Had Our Baby
And so I could not go back home.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband’s Mistress Got Pregnant After I Had Our Baby
So their child was born in January of 2024. Okay. And I actually just recently found out she's pregnant again. Are you divorced officially? Yes, our divorce is finalized in December. Do you have full custody?
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband’s Mistress Got Pregnant After I Had Our Baby
Yes, yeah. It's in our parenting plan that he has to get some help before he can be involved in our son's life.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband’s Mistress Got Pregnant After I Had Our Baby
No, no. So I live in Seattle. They live about five hours away. And they're actually not together anymore. Of course they're not.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband’s Mistress Got Pregnant After I Had Our Baby
Um, no. So he actually stopped paying on it. So it went into foreclosure. Luckily, um, the deed, like it's only in his name. Oh, okay. I help pay for things. Um, so that'll just hit his credit, which is fine. Um, And then, I mean, I moved over to Seattle. I have built a life for my son and I, I guess.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband’s Mistress Got Pregnant After I Had Our Baby
I'm just struggling in holding firm boundaries with his family because they have condoned and kind of dealt with the situation.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband’s Mistress Got Pregnant After I Had Our Baby
Oh, yeah. I have my family's close by, so it's nice to have them.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband’s Mistress Got Pregnant After I Had Our Baby
How can I move on from my ex-husband's affair and focus on raising my child? He was engaging in an affair with a girl from work. And at that time, he moved her into our family home.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband’s Mistress Got Pregnant After I Had Our Baby
Yeah, no, I don't expect it to at all.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband’s Mistress Got Pregnant After I Had Our Baby
Yeah. I mean, we have pictures up of him with him for like the first two months he was around. But he hasn't, I mean, he's not old enough to really grasp that understanding yet. But that is definitely one thing that I'm struggling with is telling him when he's older. So I don't want to lie to him.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband’s Mistress Got Pregnant After I Had Our Baby
Oh, yeah. Not my bio dad. I don't know my bio dad, so I think that kind of aids in this feeling that I have.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband’s Mistress Got Pregnant After I Had Our Baby
Okay. But yeah, my dad that's raised me since I was little, he's very involved, and my brothers are great with him, so he definitely has those male figures in his life, which I'm very thankful for.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband’s Mistress Got Pregnant After I Had Our Baby
Hi, Dr. John. Thank you for taking my call.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband’s Mistress Got Pregnant After I Had Our Baby
Yes, I would love to do that for them.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband’s Mistress Got Pregnant After I Had Our Baby
So my question is, how can I move on from my ex-husband's affair and focus on raising my child?
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband’s Mistress Got Pregnant After I Had Our Baby
Oh, yeah. All right.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband’s Mistress Got Pregnant After I Had Our Baby
So I kind of wrote it all down, so I'll say it really quick. Yeah, read it. I wrote, my ex and I met in 2015 through work. We dated, and in 2021, we bought our house and got married. In May of 2022, I found out I was pregnant. Around the same time, I also learned he was engaging in an affair with a girl from work who is 10 years younger than him.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Ja, wir haben uns bei der Universität Wisconsin-Madison kennengelernt.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
We try to pick the vegetarian things without dairy, like low-fat things, because fat doesn't dehydrate well and kind of spoils quickly. So we chose the beans and potato. Crazy.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Eine Sache, die wir oft machen, ist einfach Tomatensauce. Die Leute finden die Sauce immer interessant, aber wir benutzen sie für viele unserer Essen. Guter Geschmack. Ja.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Oh.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Tims Mutter gab mir das Buch Wild für ein Jahr vor. Es geht um Cheryl Strayed. Es ist auch ein Film. Hiking the Pacific Crest Trail. Und ich war einfach sehr enttäuscht und habe einfach Tim gesagt, wir müssen das tun. Und... Let's do it now. Let's not wait. And Tim kept saying, we need to retire before we do it. And yeah, somehow I convinced him.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Was war euer Timeline? Ja, wir haben uns, als wir ziemlich jung waren, kennengelernt. Ich war ein Freshman und Tim war ein Sophomore und wir haben uns in einem Fußballspiel kennengelernt.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Und wir hatten einen gemeinsamen Freund.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Ja, ein paar Jahre nach der Schule, ja.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
And you used like a wheelchair battery to power the car horn?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Ja, also du warst in Chicago. Ich bin aus dem Madison-Bereich. Madison, Wisconsin. Original war ich also in Madison. Ja.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Wow.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
I can't remember where we went. I do. It was Panera.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Do you remember what you ordered?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
I think we've always kind of said like maybe someday, but yeah, the someday has never come yet. And I still have no plans yet. That's funny.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Not anymore, I don't think so.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Well, I think it helped that Tim's siblings had some kids, so his mom stopped asking because she had grandkids. She was satisfied. And then we started going on these crazy hikes, so I think they just realized we're a little crazy. Sie können uns nicht kontrollieren. Das ist großartig.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Ja, ich bin Ingenieur, Tim ist Wissenschaftler. Für unsere erste Durchreise auf der Pacific Crest Trail haben wir unsere Jobs verabschiedet und, weißt du, haben einige Ideen, einige leichte Dinge nachgelegt, aber ja, es war ein großer Risiko, den wir genommen haben.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Ja, ich meine, wir haben definitiv, wenn wir denken, dass niemand da ist und wir einen Swim wollen, dann machen wir es definitiv nackt. Es gab einmal oder zweimal, dass wir getroffen wurden. Ich erinnere mich daran. Welche?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Irgendwo in Nordkalifornien. Ja, ich glaube, sie waren einfach so, oh, ja.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
I think, I just remember being in like a lake and, you know, you're kind of really dirty, you don't shower that often. So you kind of like go in the water and scrub a little bit. So I think we were just standing, scrubbing half in the water, half out of the water. And there were just some... I feel like they were hunters or something out there walking by. Oops.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
I mean, I think when you're hiking, you just kind of get in, you know, we've been out there for a couple months and you just kind of get into a mindset of you're just free and don't really care and oh, okay, oops.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Das war euer Leben.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Oh, ja.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Yeah, so... Ich denke, unser Rekord für nicht schlafen war 20 Tage.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Ich musste mich glücklich fühlen. Aber ich meine, typisch, weißt du, wir stoppen jede fünf bis sieben Tage, um mehr Essen zu bekommen. Also ja, wir versuchen, Läden und Schuhe zu machen.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Du warst wirklich isoliert.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Yeah, we shouldn't have been contagious anymore, but like the effects of like... Oh, for sure. Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Ja, und wir waren wirklich unabhängig. Wir packten alle unsere Sachen, setzten sie in Tims Moms Wohnzimmer und verkauften dein Haus. Wir hatten ein Apartment.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Cold or something?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Ich bringe drei Paare Unterweih. Also eine, die ich trage, eine für den nächsten Tag und eine für das Schlafen.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Ein Veränderung der Kleidung, sie würden beide dreckig sein. Also warum nicht nur mit einem?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
I mean, I personally think it's easy, easier to go in the woods than on a toilet. That's a good position.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Wir tragen einen ultra leichten Trowel. Also wir holen ein kleines Katzenholz weg vom Trail, weg vom Wasser. Squaten, uns um die Sache zu kümmern und dann... Wir benutzen eigentlich kein Toilettenpapier. Wir beginnen mit Stöcken oder Steinen und dann... Steine? Ja.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Ich verwende einen Rock.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
And if they break, then it gets on your hand. Leaves are not a good idea.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
That's the other reason they're bad.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
But we follow up the stick or the rock with some water. And you can get Oh wow! Und du benutzt das nicht mit deiner Wasserbottel.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Oh, es gibt eine Lüge.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Wie hast du das beantwortet?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Yeah, I mean, if I can, yeah. We like to like take a long lunch break. I mean, that's also a good time, because then you're not tired, you know. Right after a nap? Right after, yeah. So, eat lunch, take a nap, and then, yeah. Okay, dann gehst du wieder auf die Straße.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Aber Tim macht sicher, dass wir auf die Ideen folgen. Das ist eine gute Partnerschaft. Oder eine gefährliche Partnerschaft, aber ja.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Oh, okay.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Ich werde es nicht sagen. Ich werde es nicht sagen.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
They were in a tent. It was the middle of the day, but they only had like the mesh part of their tent. They didn't have a rain fly up and their tent was pitched like down below the trail. So we were walking above them and we could just look down right into their tent. Jarring.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Ich weiß es nicht. Ja, ich meine.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Oh mein Gott. Es klingt wie ein Maus oder so. Es klingt wirklich groß. Aber ja, es war nur ein Beetle.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Yeah, just under our shoe.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Es ist nicht bei uns passiert, aber es ist bei anderen Hikern passiert, mit denen wir interagiert haben. Und ja, es ist ziemlich traurig, wenn du wach wach wach wach wach wach wach wach wach wach wach wach wach wach Ja.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Ich denke, deine schmerzhafte Hände im Hikingpool.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Ja.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Yeah, we usually keep our phones in airplane mode the whole time. That sounds so refreshing.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
I think our record for not showering was... I think 23 days.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Yes.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
It just, it sounded really like challenging and it just was like, okay, this is... Eine Herausforderung, eine Erleichterung. Können wir das machen? Ich weiß es nicht. Lasst uns es mal probieren und herausfinden. Etwas Neues, etwas Erstaunliches.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Wow. Ja, aber wir haben so viel Wildnis gesehen und sie wollen wirklich nichts mit uns zu tun. Also, ja, du kannst dich einfach damit verabschieden.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Die großen Tiere, die Katzen. Wir haben einen Mountain Lion gesehen, einen Canada Lynx, Bobcats. Ja, ich mag Katzen.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Und es war in der Mitte des Tages.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
No, not yet.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Ja, also in Washington tragen wir definitiv 10 und schlafen im Tent. Aber in Arizona, nein, wir schlafen nur Cowboy Camp.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Aber ja, also mehr dreckige, deserte Klimas, wir lieben Cowboy Camp, aber dann in Plätzen, die mehr regnen oder Bugs haben, bringen wir einen Tent, so dass wir, du weißt, wie Moskau-type Bugs. Du bist so niedrig.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
What are the symptoms of elevation sickness? I always get headaches and really bad headaches. A little bit of shortness of breath and just like low energy and just like, okay, I need to take a nap right now.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
There was snow on the ground. It was below freezing. Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Ja, ich bin es. Er meinte, er hat gehört, dass das eine Bedeutung macht, wenn du auf deiner Periode bist. Wow. Das ist gut zu wissen.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
So how do you manage that? Yeah, well, I guess... I feel like exercise kind of helps with period symptoms. So, yeah, maybe that's... Yeah, but anyways, I usually just bring a menstrual cup. So... Ja, also ich habe es mit mir alle fünf Monate und dann, wenn ich es brauche, benutze ich viel Handsanitizer, hole eine Schale und rühre die Menstrualkuppe in eine Schale, so wie wenn ich schlafen würde.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Wasche es mit sauberen Wasser. Wahnsinn.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Ja, also wir haben einen bear-proof-Bag, den wir normalerweise benutzen. Es hängt davon ab, wo du reisen willst und die Regulierungen, aber wenn es erlaubt ist, haben wir diesen Canvas-Sack, der bear-proof ist, die Bären können nicht durchschneiden, also legen wir all unsere Essen und irgendwelche gekleckten Sachen da rein und stecken sie auf einem Baum weg von unserer Tent.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Yeah, like a bear canister is Und du denkst dir, ich kann das nicht tragen.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Und wir waren einfach so, was?
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Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
That's so dramatic.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Also packen wir einen Wasserfilter und Maps. Und dann verwenden wir unsere Maps, um zu sehen, wo die Wassersourcen sind und filteren die Wasser.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
20 Meilen bis zum nächsten Wassersatz.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Yeah, but the problem was it was just a road. It was 12 miles back. It was just a road and we would have had to hitchhike back into the town, but it took us two hours for a car to pick us up the first time. So it was just like
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Und die Stadt war wie eine 50-Menschen-Stadt oder so. Wir haben die Straße nicht zurückgefolgt, weil wir wussten, dass es keine Wasser auf der Straße gab. Wir haben uns unsere Maps angeschaut und gefunden, dass es Dirt-Räder gab. Und es gab Kuhwälder, die angeboten wurden. Also gingen wir zurück auf die Straße, auf diese Dirt-Räder, hoffend, dass diese Kuhwälder Wasser hatten.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Ja, also dann war es so 30 Meilen nach der nächsten Wassersource.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
It's not very big, like Sechs Inches lang? Ja. Oh, wow.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Wir hatten genug Wasserbotteln, um 20 Meilen zu machen, weil wir dachten, das wäre unsere längste Strecke. Ja. Also haben wir uns kreativ gemacht. Wir tranken eine Menge Wasser, als wir da sitzen. Wir nennen es Cameling Up. Warte, ich habe gehört, es gab einen Mythos über Camels.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Okay, we cameled up, yeah. And then we also filled our pot with water. Okay. Yeah, it kind of worked.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Yeah, so, but I mean, our typical approach is, you know, I hike in front, Tim hikes behind me, so I set the pace, and, because I'm a little slower than him, but if we get into an argument, we like split up and hike apart for an hour and cool down. But I can't like, Wenn ich von Tim weggehen will, kann ich es nicht, weil ich ein langsamer Hiker bin.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
It's freaking me out. Okay. Filled up your pots. So then, yeah, we took off walking. And we actually... Wir haben einen Plastik-Wasser-Bottel gefunden, ich weiß nicht, 10 oder 15 Meilen später, wir haben einen halben vollen Plastik-Wasser-Bottel auf dem Boden gefunden. Schade an ihnen, aber gut für dich.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Und dann waren wir einfach so, okay, wir stehlen das für emergency supply und ja, wir bohlen es oder, du weißt, filteren und bohlen es, wenn wir es brauchen, aber ja. Und dann hat die Straße einen Weg geschlagen und es gab einen kleinen Rechner, wo du deinen Namen und den Tag nennen kannst, den du geschlagen hast. Und innerhalb des Rechners waren zwei kleine Gatorade. Ah, das war glücklich.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Trail-Magie. Trail-Magie.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Ja, genau. Das ist so cool.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Ich habe dich völlig unterbrochen. Ein paar hundert Meilen später haben wir uns mit dem Mann getroffen, der die Gatorade in die Flasche gelegt hat. Er war im Camping am Wochenende und ich weiß nicht, wir haben darüber gesprochen und es kam heraus, dass er der war, der sie in die Flasche gelegt hat. Vielen Dank, wir wussten das tatsächlich.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Und er hat sie das Jahr vorher in die Flasche gelegt und er war so, oh, ist es steigend? Ich sollte mehr hinbekommen.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Ja.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
And Renee was Blue Man. Blue Man? Yeah, I... Halfway through the trail I decided to buzz off all my hair, just because I was sick of it. You buzzed off all your hair? Yeah, so I had like a buzz cut. And then I had like, my base layer was bright blue, so everyone said I looked like I was in the Blue Man Group. But the base layer, like...
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Ja, ich meine, die meisten Leute, die auf diesen Lang-Through-Hikes gehen, schäben nicht ihre Beine. Ich habe meine Beine nicht geschäbt, meine Armpitze, nichts. Ich liebe das für dich.
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Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Nein.
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Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Ja, abhängig davon, wie viel... Wenn wir nur in die Stadt gehen und wir haben sieben Tage, um zu gehen, brauchen wir all das Essen. Und wenn es...
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Vielleicht bin ich der Kämpfer, Tim ist der Flieger, weil er liebt es, sein Handy auf einem Berg oder so zu bewerben. Und ich bin immer so, Tim, rette deine Batterie, geh aus dem Handy. Das führt zu vielen Argumenten.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Ja, ich denke, was sagen die Hikerinnen am Ende einer langen Straße? Die Frauen sehen aus wie Göttinnen, sie sind super muskulär und dünn, aber die Männer sehen aus, als ob sie sterben. Es ist nichts mehr. Ich weiß nicht, warum, aber...
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Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Die Männer sehen einfach schräg aus und die Frauen haben große Kälber und sind wirklich stark. Das ist unglaublich.
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Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Ich denke, dein Geist ist einfach so frei und das Leben ist einfach so einfach. Du denkst wirklich nur über Essen, Wasser, Gehen. Und du hast kein Smartphone, also hast du dich nicht darüber beschäftigt. Du hast dich nicht wirklich darüber beschäftigt, was andere von dir denken. Du hast dich nicht über deinen Status im Weltraum beschäftigt. Du hast dich nur über Gehen beschäftigt.
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Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Das klingt unglaublich.
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Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Ja, ich fühle mich zurück in die echte Welt. Es ist sehr laut. Alles ist sehr laut. Und schnell.
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Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Ja, also der Pacific Crest Trail geht durch die Wälder und Berge von Kalifornien, Oregon und Washington.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Von der mexikanischen Grenze zur kanadischen Grenze.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
2.650. Wow.
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Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Einige ein bisschen mehr, einige ein bisschen länger. Vielleicht vier und eine halbe Monate bis drei und eine halbe Monate.
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Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Längst in Bezug auf Distanz, aber ich denke, wir waren schneller Wow, okay. Wir sind besser geworden.
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Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Ja, und du lernst immer neue Tricks von anderen Leuten.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Ja, und ich denke, du weißt, wir haben das Ziel erwähnt, du hast ein Ziel, das du täglich vorbeikommst, und du hast endlich das ganze Ziel erreicht, den Trail zu beenden, und dann ist das Ziel weg.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Und es ist einfach wie eine Verwirrung, was mache ich? Und ja, also es kann, es kann, du weißt, ziemlich schnell, ein paar Wochen bis ein Monat später, und ja, es ist schwer, in die Gesellschaft zu reintegrieren.
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Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Ja, normalerweise sagen wir, wir setzen einen Treffenpunkt, treffen uns am Top.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Ich habe auch 8 geklopft, tatsächlich.
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Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Nein, ich glaube nicht. Auf unserer ersten Reise von Mexiko nach Kanada auf der Pacific Crest Trail haben wir entschieden, dass es eine gute Idee wäre, ein Handy zu teilen. Also hatten wir nur ein Handy zwischen uns beiden. Das war ein Fehler.
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Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Also meistens, weil es zwei von uns gibt, bin ich besser bei der Versorgung meiner Batterie, also habe ich immer ein Handy.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Früchte kannst du einfach ausdehydratieren und essen, wie ausdehydratierte Früchte oder frische Früchte. Aber andere Früchte, wie wir Mehl ausdehydratieren, wie Fleisch und Vegetable und Beine. Und so ausdehydratieren wir sie zu Hause vor dem Trip, mailen sie uns selbst. Und dann auf dem Trip kochen wir sie, kochen sie für...
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Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
ein paar Minuten oder sie in kaltem Wasser für eine Stunde zubereiten und sie zurückkehren.
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Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Ich denke, wir waren beide auf Kaffee, aber vielleicht trank Tim es in mehr exzessiven Quantitäten als ich, aber ja.
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Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Es ist einfach so gut. Es ist Energie. Und es hilft definitiv, wenn du den ganzen Tag auf dem Weg bist, das extra Kaffee. Oh, sicher.
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Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Ich glaube, deine Vorderarmen wären wahrscheinlich noch... Ja, ich meine, wir haben diesen Reis angefangen, mit dem Gehen... 1.500 Meilen. Und ja, wir hatten keine Kraft in unseren Armen.
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Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Ich habe auch einige schöne Orte gesehen. Ja, ja, definitiv. Ja, der Columbia-River, wenn du weißt, dass es nach Norden in Kanada geht und dann zurück in die USA kommt. Und einfach große Berge direkt neben dem Meer mit Glaciers am Top. Ja, es war wunderschön.
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Renee & Tim "Thruhikers" on Walking from Mexico to Canada, Intimacy Outdoors & Getting Lost
Ich fühle mich ehrlich gesagt, wenn du nah dran bist, sieht es aus wie dreckiges Schnee.