Rep. Chip Roy

And to your point about the fraud, that's a part of it too, right?

That they are stealing money from us in the form of fraud, both taxpayer-funded money as well as borrowed money

To then fund people who are here, whether they're here legally or illegally, it's both, in order to continue to prop them up and then prevent us from enforcing the law to not have dangerous individuals or people in order to be removed who are using up resources, both legitimate and illegitimate.

And that destroys the country.

Like, Glenn, we won't have a country left.

So we either win this battle right now.

We either rally around the president and say, enforce the law, enforce the sovereignty of the country and do it right.

Like Tom Homan going on the ground was a wise move by the president.

We need seasoned leadership by somebody who's been there before, who knows how to do it and can do it the right way.

OK, I don't think we should just go around willy nilly, but we need to be able to work with law enforcement and we need to pressure the locals to work with us in order to ensure bad actors are removed.

Well, number one, this is where Congress steps in and has to be able to come together to use the power of the purse, which we have been to your point, which I no doubt you're no doubt are already thinking and about to say has not been effective.

We continue to fund the things that we complain about, like sanctuary cities.

We continue to fund, you know, the law enforcement that is not actually working with us.

I think we ought to not do that.

And I think that the president ought to use every power that he can and that OMB Director Russ Vogt can use every power he can to stop funding those people who are at odds with our way of life.

But we've got to just continue to back the president.

The president has to continue to put the heat on these guys, and we have to win politically.

That's what we have to do.

There's no other choice.

Right now, if we, to your point, and I don't believe the president is backing up or retreating or use the phrase waving the white flag.