Rep. Morgan Griffith

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But first, we're going to talk to Allie Beth Stuckey. Her new book, Toxic Empathy, is on the New York Times bestseller list. Toxic empathy is a great topic for me. You can follow Allie at conservemillen.com. Think conservative millennial. Conserve, M-I-L-L-E-N. Allie Beth Stuckey. Allie is spelled A-L-L-I-E. Stuckey, S-T-U-C-K-E-Y. AllieBethStuckey.com. Her podcast is called Relatable.

But first, we're going to talk to Allie Beth Stuckey. Her new book, Toxic Empathy, is on the New York Times bestseller list. Toxic empathy is a great topic for me. You can follow Allie at conservemillen.com. Think conservative millennial. Conserve, M-I-L-L-E-N. Allie Beth Stuckey. Allie is spelled A-L-L-I-E. Stuckey, S-T-U-C-K-E-Y. AllieBethStuckey.com. Her podcast is called Relatable.

You can get it all the usual places. and she's Allie Beth Stuckey on YouTube. Again, that's S-T-U-C-K-E-Y. Allie, welcome to the program, and congratulations on New York Times Best Seller. Well done.

You can get it all the usual places. and she's Allie Beth Stuckey on YouTube. Again, that's S-T-U-C-K-E-Y. Allie, welcome to the program, and congratulations on New York Times Best Seller. Well done.

So, I almost don't know where to start with this conversation. I guess I would say I've talked about it on this show before, that this... I'm a good person. I'm nice. And I do what's right has become so misappropriated, it's actually become disgusting.

So, I almost don't know where to start with this conversation. I guess I would say I've talked about it on this show before, that this... I'm a good person. I'm nice. And I do what's right has become so misappropriated, it's actually become disgusting.

And I became acutely aware of it when I was up at sort of ground zero of this nonsense in Victoria, British Columbia, where they are actually very nice. But if you scratch under the surface, there's a... a, what's the word I'm looking for? A seething rage, a seething rage right under the surface.

And I became acutely aware of it when I was up at sort of ground zero of this nonsense in Victoria, British Columbia, where they are actually very nice. But if you scratch under the surface, there's a... a, what's the word I'm looking for? A seething rage, a seething rage right under the surface.

So a lot of this misuse of empathy is actually a defense, a cover from actually being kind of a shitty person.

So a lot of this misuse of empathy is actually a defense, a cover from actually being kind of a shitty person.

Let's sort of deconstruct what we mean by toxic empathy because real empathy, true empathy, has at its core a deep understanding of what the other person experienced, what they need, what their motivational states are. But there's, for me, there's sort of two things at the core here that make this so toxic. One is a seeming complete lack of understanding about

Let's sort of deconstruct what we mean by toxic empathy because real empathy, true empathy, has at its core a deep understanding of what the other person experienced, what they need, what their motivational states are. But there's, for me, there's sort of two things at the core here that make this so toxic. One is a seeming complete lack of understanding about

it's essentially human motivation and what people need and what makes them ascend to a greater good. And that's when people are their best and feel their best. And if you're really empathic to somebody, it's the equivalent of letting the drug addicts die on the streets here in Los Angeles. That is not empathy. That is disgusting. And empathy is hard. It's like, No, man, come with me.

it's essentially human motivation and what people need and what makes them ascend to a greater good. And that's when people are their best and feel their best. And if you're really empathic to somebody, it's the equivalent of letting the drug addicts die on the streets here in Los Angeles. That is not empathy. That is disgusting. And empathy is hard. It's like, No, man, come with me.

Let's do this. Let's do the work together, whatever it means. Fighting against the disease, fighting against the defensiveness. But this sort of toxic empathy lacks an understanding of human need and human motivation. Is that about right?

Let's do this. Let's do the work together, whatever it means. Fighting against the disease, fighting against the defensiveness. But this sort of toxic empathy lacks an understanding of human need and human motivation. Is that about right?

In a weird way, I guess the empathy becomes adulterated by ideology. And then the empathy is used sort of as a cudgel. I was thinking about this today when I was thinking about it, which is, you know, I'm a good person. I would never say anything that would harm a transgender individual. So I'm going to keep my mouth shut because I would never be somebody that would hurt somebody else.

In a weird way, I guess the empathy becomes adulterated by ideology. And then the empathy is used sort of as a cudgel. I was thinking about this today when I was thinking about it, which is, you know, I'm a good person. I would never say anything that would harm a transgender individual. So I'm going to keep my mouth shut because I would never be somebody that would hurt somebody else.