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Episode 458 โ A Case & The Book โ Rabih and Reza discuss with Dr. Daniel Kelmenson, a patient with severe hypoxemia
And I don't think there's a clear path, but I'll just share the pings that I got.
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Episode 458 โ A Case & The Book โ Rabih and Reza discuss with Dr. Daniel Kelmenson, a patient with severe hypoxemia
The pings that I got was to go back and be like, wait, is this real?
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Episode 458 โ A Case & The Book โ Rabih and Reza discuss with Dr. Daniel Kelmenson, a patient with severe hypoxemia
Because the one time I saw a patient with acute leukemia whose PAO2 was a fake out.
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Episode 458 โ A Case & The Book โ Rabih and Reza discuss with Dr. Daniel Kelmenson, a patient with severe hypoxemia
But again, just for clarity, in that patient, the PaO2 on the ABG, which here is 51, as low as a fake out, but the SaO2 in that patient was normal.
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Episode 458 โ A Case & The Book โ Rabih and Reza discuss with Dr. Daniel Kelmenson, a patient with severe hypoxemia
So I'm starting to wonder, wait, is this that situation?
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Episode 458 โ A Case & The Book โ Rabih and Reza discuss with Dr. Daniel Kelmenson, a patient with severe hypoxemia
And I think that the case for that situation, although intriguing, is weakened by the fact that the hypoxemia is dynamic, that he wasn't hypoxemic when he came in and he is now.
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Episode 458 โ A Case & The Book โ Rabih and Reza discuss with Dr. Daniel Kelmenson, a patient with severe hypoxemia
And so I'm holding on to that possibility.
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Episode 458 โ A Case & The Book โ Rabih and Reza discuss with Dr. Daniel Kelmenson, a patient with severe hypoxemia
But more alarmingly, a thing that you pinged, Prof. Rez, is the Ras-Bur case.
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Episode 458 โ A Case & The Book โ Rabih and Reza discuss with Dr. Daniel Kelmenson, a patient with severe hypoxemia
So Ras-Bur case is unfortunately a notorious trigger for methemoglobinemia and hemolysis in patients with G6PD deficiency.
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Episode 458 โ A Case & The Book โ Rabih and Reza discuss with Dr. Daniel Kelmenson, a patient with severe hypoxemia
So this is an important concept to put out there, which is that...
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Episode 458 โ A Case & The Book โ Rabih and Reza discuss with Dr. Daniel Kelmenson, a patient with severe hypoxemia
Well, oftentimes when you're giving Raspuricase, you don't know if the patient has G6PD deficiency or not because it's acute and important enough.
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Episode 458 โ A Case & The Book โ Rabih and Reza discuss with Dr. Daniel Kelmenson, a patient with severe hypoxemia
This patient's gender, him being a man, puts him at risk for this X-linked deficiency.
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Episode 458 โ A Case & The Book โ Rabih and Reza discuss with Dr. Daniel Kelmenson, a patient with severe hypoxemia
And what can happen is that Raspuricase essentially induces reactive oxygen species that both destroys the hemoglobin and the patient gets a hemolytic anemia and also oxidizes the hemoglobin and results in methemoglobin anemia.
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Episode 458 โ A Case & The Book โ Rabih and Reza discuss with Dr. Daniel Kelmenson, a patient with severe hypoxemia
So I think you have that ABG, and I think as you alluded to, one powerful step that you can do right now is to add co-oxymetry and look for methemoglobinemia on that ABG.
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Episode 458 โ A Case & The Book โ Rabih and Reza discuss with Dr. Daniel Kelmenson, a patient with severe hypoxemia
Yeah, and I think those are the two pings I got.
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Episode 458 โ A Case & The Book โ Rabih and Reza discuss with Dr. Daniel Kelmenson, a patient with severe hypoxemia
Is this real, fake PaO2 from leukemia, or is it another fake out from methemoglobinemia?
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Episode 458 โ A Case & The Book โ Rabih and Reza discuss with Dr. Daniel Kelmenson, a patient with severe hypoxemia
What are your thoughts?
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Episode 458 โ A Case & The Book โ Rabih and Reza discuss with Dr. Daniel Kelmenson, a patient with severe hypoxemia
Prof. Rez, I'm going to make a bold claim.
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Episode 458 โ A Case & The Book โ Rabih and Reza discuss with Dr. Daniel Kelmenson, a patient with severe hypoxemia
I think this is my favorite case of all time.
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Episode 458 โ A Case & The Book โ Rabih and Reza discuss with Dr. Daniel Kelmenson, a patient with severe hypoxemia
Because this is the case that I would title the double negative.